Message from @Jake the Exile
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And who taught the people?
People did
Reading what?
Something written by a person, from some person's ideas
We know what you wanna say
@TEABAG!!! Yoni
Not stealing is not merely an oral tradition governed by superstition and bad luck. It's a moral imperative.
These are human things, not holy things.
Again refering back to 1 Corinthians chapter 10
** Warnings From Israel’s History **
``1 For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. 2 They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3 They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5 Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered in the wilderness. 6 Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did. 7 Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.” 8 We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did—and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 9 We should not test Christ, as some of them did—and were killed by snakes. 10 And do not grumble, as some of them did—and were killed by the destroying angel. ``
Pack animals also know not to steal. No god taught them this through a great revelation.
Not stealing is people realizing that society works better if they don't steal
It's not a moral imperative, it's a utilitarian one
They already knew in the bible that there was war and there were problems with religious fractions.
Christians steal as much as atheists do
@Lios That's horseshit, or goatshit to be more precise. Goats have no concept of boundaries, they will eat anything.
It's just instinctual. The gold standard is pretty much the only natural dogma we can apply.
what ever dude ... it is in the bible
They knew slaying and slaughtering of animals----- halal or kosha was wrong
Goats are not pack animals, they are herd animals.
Wolves know damn well when they steal, and often try to hide the evidence. Showing they know instinctually that it is wrong.
Pack animals, carnivores if you want to be precise, have instinctive knowledge of territory and personal belonging, they will growl at you if you try and approach their food. They know what stealing is and guard against it.
They also steal. Nature is fallible.
This is all structural things that will come back into society again if people read and start to discuss.
I don't trust religious people with morality, because they don't justify their morals with reason, but with "muh book"
So you'd rather your morality come from people who say that all white people are racist?
Because that's what we're getting.
Strawman
Do they have a rational basis for this reasoning to make it as a moral argument?
It is a material example of the alternative.
"If you don't like my bad way, you want another bad way instead"
No it is not.
Again I am going to tell you that freedom of thinking, and your conscience is mentioned in the bible, more than 1000 times. I wil help restore that for you . I will show you 1 Corinthians chapter 10 again;
** The Believer’s Freedom **
``23 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive. 24 No one should seek their own good, but the good of others. 25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26 for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.” 27 If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 28 But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience. 29 I am referring to the other person’s conscience, not yours. For why is my freedom being judged by another’s conscience? ``
Yes it's a strawman
A moral basis must be rationalized, and a rationalization must be agreed upon by the greater society.
This is all to help you find an ethical path
No read
We see what "morality minus muh book" is doing. ANd it's hypergamy.
@TEABAG!!! I don't think anyone is reading these excerpts
No they didn't