Message from @Shamrock

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2019-09-09 03:06:12 UTC  

then something happened in 1920, and we have this mess

2019-09-09 03:06:49 UTC  

not gonna say what happened during that time, but a certain someone who never earned the right to vote, sort of just 'got it'

2019-09-09 03:07:43 UTC  

nah nah, it's never just one thing, that's honestly too easy of a solution.

2019-09-09 03:07:51 UTC  

is it?

2019-09-09 03:07:55 UTC  

IS IT!?

2019-09-09 03:07:56 UTC  

it's always a series of small things, operating in tempo

2019-09-09 03:07:57 UTC  

yes

2019-09-09 03:08:13 UTC  

1913. the fed was created, and the federal income tax system

2019-09-09 03:08:14 UTC  

Okay, guess we'll never solve the problem then

2019-09-09 03:08:27 UTC  

which in turn shifted the way money flows in the US away from the states

2019-09-09 03:08:39 UTC  

it used to go, Citizen - STATE - Federal

2019-09-09 03:08:50 UTC  

and the states determined how much money the federal was allowed to have

2019-09-09 03:09:00 UTC  

now it's Citizen - FEDERAL - State

2019-09-09 03:09:18 UTC  

and the states have to essentially beg for their own money in the form of the federal subsidy

2019-09-09 03:09:36 UTC  

I agree

2019-09-09 03:09:47 UTC  

Direct Unapportioned taxes, as they are in the Federal Income Tax are Illegal according to the US constitution

2019-09-09 03:09:56 UTC  

however, i believe the looming issue lies in unbridled democracy

2019-09-09 03:09:58 UTC  

however, it's always been upheld in court

2019-09-09 03:10:15 UTC  

of course, those courts were always federal court, so no fucking surprise there

2019-09-09 03:11:06 UTC  

It's unbridled democracy, combined with ignorance, propaganda and demegogory

2019-09-09 03:11:34 UTC  

federal courts are like the rest of the government... massively overreaching their mandate.

2019-09-09 03:11:34 UTC  

the people doing the voting are too stupid to realize they are voting away their own futures, freedoms and self determination

2019-09-09 03:11:58 UTC  

we need a net taxpayer votes for congress, and the veterans and soldiers that can meet the male standard vote for the president

2019-09-09 03:12:25 UTC  

and the citizens vote for their own state governors i guess

2019-09-09 03:13:24 UTC  

that way no one can lobby without losing their rights to being anet taxpayer and thus the stupid law or policy they lobbied can be repealed or remended by the sensible net taxpayers

2019-09-09 03:13:25 UTC  

and while I don't believe that we should go back in time with regards to women/people of color/etc being able to vote on those factors, I do think you shouldnt be allowed to vote unless you can pass a basic civics course

2019-09-09 03:13:53 UTC  

the ability to vote can be more devestating or rewarding than a gun

2019-09-09 03:14:13 UTC  

women and colored people can vote congress if they're net taxpayers, same with the president if you can meet the male standard

2019-09-09 03:14:26 UTC  

no racism or sexism here

2019-09-09 03:14:36 UTC  

I had to take gun safety, driver's ed and training courses on operating a power loader and fork lift

2019-09-09 03:14:43 UTC  

you should have to take a class and pass to be able to vote

2019-09-09 03:14:44 UTC  

true equality of opportunity

2019-09-09 03:15:17 UTC  

and Why is that you might ask? Because all of those things are extremely dangerous tools in the hands of an ignorant

2019-09-09 03:16:42 UTC  

people are too scared or haven't felt enough pain i guess

2019-09-09 03:16:57 UTC  

#repealthe19th

2019-09-09 03:17:00 UTC  

it's complacentcy

2019-09-09 03:17:44 UTC  

i think you're being too focused on one group of people

2019-09-09 03:17:49 UTC  

nope

2019-09-09 03:18:05 UTC  

im a woman anyways

2019-09-09 03:18:50 UTC  

none of these problems you put forward can be solved whilst women can vote (without earning it)

2019-09-09 03:18:51 UTC  

you don't have to qualify your beliefs with that, I mean I get that you believe what you believe and I respect that