however, i believe the looming issue lies in unbridled democracy

however, it's always been upheld in court

of course, those courts were always federal court, so no fucking surprise there

It's unbridled democracy, combined with ignorance, propaganda and demegogory

federal courts are like the rest of the government... massively overreaching their mandate.

the people doing the voting are too stupid to realize they are voting away their own futures, freedoms and self determination

we need a net taxpayer votes for congress, and the veterans and soldiers that can meet the male standard vote for the president

and the citizens vote for their own state governors i guess

that way no one can lobby without losing their rights to being anet taxpayer and thus the stupid law or policy they lobbied can be repealed or remended by the sensible net taxpayers

and while I don't believe that we should go back in time with regards to women/people of color/etc being able to vote on those factors, I do think you shouldnt be allowed to vote unless you can pass a basic civics course

the ability to vote can be more devestating or rewarding than a gun

women and colored people can vote congress if they're net taxpayers, same with the president if you can meet the male standard

no racism or sexism here

I had to take gun safety, driver's ed and training courses on operating a power loader and fork lift

you should have to take a class and pass to be able to vote

true equality of opportunity

and Why is that you might ask? Because all of those things are extremely dangerous tools in the hands of an ignorant

people are too scared or haven't felt enough pain i guess

#repealthe19th

it's complacentcy

i think you're being too focused on one group of people

nope

im a woman anyways

none of these problems you put forward can be solved whilst women can vote (without earning it)

you don't have to qualify your beliefs with that, I mean I get that you believe what you believe and I respect that

the thing is, that presumes that there aren't men who "haven't earned it" on the basis they are men

exactly. men who aren't net taxpayers Should ALSO not be allowed to vote for congress

and I think we all know that isn't true, there are certainly a plethora of people who quote "havent earned it"

however what did men do to earn the right to vote in the first place?

well they built the system in the first place for one

create the democratic system?

then tell me if women did as much or more than what men did to earn the same thing

no

no im pretty sure that's part of it

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sorry, just being funny, continue

they actually earned the right to vote by fighting in the revolutionary war

oh, I thought you meant WAAAAy back

like roman times

oh yeah, the greeks and romans still had slaves, so i dont consider them true democracies anyways

but yeah that'd be confusing sorry