Ness

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Ness
2019-09-09 01:43:47 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Hello!

Ness
2019-09-09 01:53:30 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Sorry I was watching a video

Ness
2019-09-09 01:55:33 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Oh god

Ness
2019-09-09 01:56:23 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Iโ€™ve always been meaning to join Sargons discord server but I just never got around to doing it

Ness
2019-09-09 01:58:17 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Whatโ€™s the general political vibe around here, like does it vary drastically or is everyone kinda on the same page on most issues?

Ness
2019-09-09 02:01:05 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Righto

Ness
2019-09-09 02:02:19 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Yeah, I thought as much

Ness
2019-09-09 02:03:06 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

I guess everyone wants to shout their ideals in the Sargon discord chat XD

Ness
2019-09-09 02:03:59 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Thatโ€™s the opposite of what I want to do

Ness
2019-09-09 02:04:56 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Also, neither a commie nor a supremacist. Have chatted with a few though

Ness
2019-09-09 02:06:50 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Has Sargon seen the political Trichotomy?

Ness
2019-09-09 02:09:45 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Nice^

Ness
2019-09-09 02:11:34 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

No such thing

Ness
2019-09-09 02:12:46 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

But they need a dictator in order to seize the everything? And then they donโ€™t overthrow or the dictator doesnโ€™t relinquish its power. It never happens

Ness
2019-09-09 02:13:11 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

I assume heโ€™s been told this

Ness
2019-09-09 02:15:15 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

Ness
2019-09-09 02:18:56 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

I donโ€™t trust God Emperor

Ness
2019-09-09 02:19:09 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

But thatโ€™s fine

Ness
2019-09-09 02:19:32 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Where my Goddamn WALL!??

Ness
2019-09-09 02:19:48 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Thereโ€™s never gonna be a wall

Ness
2019-09-09 02:21:40 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Re allocate military spending huh?

Ness
2019-09-09 02:24:05 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Itโ€™s a good idea, the wall, but itโ€™s never gonna come to fruition

Ness
2019-09-09 02:25:28 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

They need those illegals though.

Ness
2019-09-09 02:25:34 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

For votes

Ness
2019-09-09 02:25:53 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

And to sustain the welfare state

Ness
2019-09-09 02:26:20 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Many people get annoyed when I bring that part up so Iโ€™m kinda testing the water^^

Ness
2019-09-09 02:27:37 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

The left wants votes and the right wants people. Both to work for cheap, and also to fill the replacement rate.

Ness
2019-09-09 02:31:08 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Whenever I debate the Alt Right types I always ask, โ€œisnโ€™t Japan your dream? Why not move there.โ€ They say yes of course. Then I ask โ€œWhatโ€™s Japanโ€™s fertility rate again?โ€.

Crickets

Ness
2019-09-09 02:31:59 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

And what do you know, Japan is expanding its guest worker programs.. totally secure borders, Japan first!

Ness
2019-09-09 02:34:42 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Until they need more people. Again, theyโ€™re not Japanese and the Japanese are already highly xenophobic to pretty much anyone who isnโ€™t Japaneseโ€™s regardless of if youโ€™re Asian as well.

Ness
2019-09-09 02:36:19 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Oh well, Japan will be fine, so Iโ€™ve been told

Ness
2019-09-09 02:38:32 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Oh of course

Ness
2019-09-09 02:39:03 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

But Japan will be fine. They have the โ€˜technologyโ€™ to be fine

Ness
2019-09-09 02:39:27 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Thats a legit argument someone used. Their technology will save them

Ness
2019-09-09 02:40:41 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

It wasnโ€™t long until they started calling me a Jew shill, or a low IQ mutt, since Iโ€™m Australian

Ness
2019-09-09 02:41:01 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Oh, that doesnโ€™t matter. Theyโ€™ll keep importing in order to fund their welfare state..

Ness
2019-09-09 02:41:13 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

They just wonโ€™t call it โ€˜importingโ€™

Ness
2019-09-09 02:42:03 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Iโ€™d rather not say

Ness
2019-09-09 02:42:25 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

If you ever hear my voice youโ€™ll be able to guess anyways

Ness
2019-09-09 02:43:51 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

I donโ€™t think it matters anyway

Ness
2019-09-09 02:47:54 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

true, but i dont believe it'll ever be built and im more than welcome to be proven wrong, and have the 'i told you so dance' danced in front me

Ness
2019-09-09 02:51:18 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

its because the brits 'wont take a no deal' so they have no leverage

Ness
2019-09-09 02:51:31 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

just fucking leave already!

Ness
2019-09-09 02:55:22 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

wish we didn't have a gun buyback in austtralia, now its corrupt

Ness
2019-09-09 02:57:54 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

@MCM ๐Ÿ’ฏ Also your country is just blatantly ignoring democracy when it suits them

Ness
2019-09-09 02:59:07 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

the oligarchs would never scorched earth nuke everything

Ness
2019-09-09 02:59:35 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

they need that serf life. serf's up dude!

Ness
2019-09-09 03:00:25 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

the reason they wont is because they need the 'bottom' people to work the land and whatnot

Ness
2019-09-09 03:02:07 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

then they lose power and the people elect someone else to lay all the blame on. remember napoleon?

Ness
2019-09-09 03:02:51 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

the 'people' will win, for now until we get robots to quell uprisings

Ness
2019-09-09 03:03:35 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

remember when the french revolution was all about beheading the aristocracy, and getting freedom and democracy by force?

Ness
2019-09-09 03:04:15 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

until democracy fails (like it always does) and they elect another super tyrant to blame. Napoleon

Ness
2019-09-09 03:04:29 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

same could be said for Hitler in a way too i guess

Ness
2019-09-09 03:05:16 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

that's right. a republic which restricted the franchise of voters to those who were responsible\

Ness
2019-09-09 03:06:12 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

then something happened in 1920, and we have this mess

Ness
2019-09-09 03:06:49 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

not gonna say what happened during that time, but a certain someone who never earned the right to vote, sort of just 'got it'

Ness
2019-09-09 03:07:51 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

is it?

Ness
2019-09-09 03:07:55 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

IS IT!?

Ness
2019-09-09 03:08:14 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

Okay, guess we'll never solve the problem then

Ness
2019-09-09 03:09:36 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

I agree

Ness
2019-09-09 03:09:56 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

however, i believe the looming issue lies in unbridled democracy

Ness
2019-09-09 03:11:58 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

we need a net taxpayer votes for congress, and the veterans and soldiers that can meet the male standard vote for the president

Ness
2019-09-09 03:12:25 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

and the citizens vote for their own state governors i guess

Ness
2019-09-09 03:13:24 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

that way no one can lobby without losing their rights to being anet taxpayer and thus the stupid law or policy they lobbied can be repealed or remended by the sensible net taxpayers

Ness
2019-09-09 03:14:13 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

women and colored people can vote congress if they're net taxpayers, same with the president if you can meet the male standard

Ness
2019-09-09 03:14:26 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

no racism or sexism here

Ness
2019-09-09 03:14:44 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

true equality of opportunity

Ness
2019-09-09 03:16:42 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

people are too scared or haven't felt enough pain i guess

Ness
2019-09-09 03:16:57 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

#repealthe19th

Ness
2019-09-09 03:17:49 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

nope

Ness
2019-09-09 03:18:05 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

im a woman anyways

Ness
2019-09-09 03:18:50 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

none of these problems you put forward can be solved whilst women can vote (without earning it)

Ness
2019-09-09 03:20:05 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

exactly. men who aren't net taxpayers Should ALSO not be allowed to vote for congress

Ness
2019-09-09 03:20:51 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

however what did men do to earn the right to vote in the first place?

Ness
2019-09-09 03:21:15 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

then tell me if women did as much or more than what men did to earn the same thing

Ness
2019-09-09 03:21:22 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

no

Ness
2019-09-09 03:22:25 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

they actually earned the right to vote by fighting in the revolutionary war

Ness
2019-09-09 03:23:12 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

oh yeah, the greeks and romans still had slaves, so i dont consider them true democracies anyways

Ness
2019-09-09 03:23:23 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

but yeah that'd be confusing sorry

Ness
2019-09-09 03:23:42 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

same. kinda

Ness
2019-09-09 03:24:46 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

but yeah, the founding fathers literally bribed the men with the right to vote if they fought the british

Ness
2019-09-09 03:25:08 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

since, they had no money

Ness
2019-09-09 03:25:48 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

all women did was bitch and moan that they didn't get to vote and poof! they got it for literally nothing

Ness
2019-09-09 03:26:22 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

@jacovich stabs because people didn't want to fight the british until they were offered political power

Ness
2019-09-09 03:27:16 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

they never earned, and they still have not shown anything that lets them deserve it

Ness
2019-09-09 03:28:10 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

I digress. the point is, democracy fails

Ness
2019-09-09 03:29:38 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

@jacovich stabs the founding fathers dishonestly persuaded the then american populace to act in their favour with political power. Bribe

Ness
2019-09-09 03:31:15 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

true, they weren't dishonest about it, but they were dishonest about other things in line with their republic (all men are created equal yet some of us still have slaves)

Ness
2019-09-09 03:31:35 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

you got me

Ness
2019-09-09 03:31:38 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

im a liar

Ness
2019-09-09 03:34:11 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

freedom making waves

Ness
2019-09-09 03:35:34 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

I like Adams a lot

Ness
2019-09-09 03:36:53 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

anyways, unless women pay net taxes and go to war they should neither vote for congress or president. same goes for men

Ness
2019-09-09 03:37:24 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

many?

Ness
2019-09-09 03:37:33 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

run that by me one more time

Ness
2019-09-09 03:39:39 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

being a beneficiary of the taxes discredits you as a net taxpayer btw

Ness
2019-09-09 03:40:45 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

depends. are you on any kind of social/welfare

Ness
2019-09-09 03:41:20 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

if you payed more than you put into the system, that makes you a net taxpayer

Ness
2019-09-09 03:41:50 UTC [Athens #the-long-walls_immigrants]  

you can get a tax return that is less than what you put in, thus making you a NTP

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