Message from @AgentExeider
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the reason they wont is because they need the 'bottom' people to work the land and whatnot
im not saying all of them, but the right number could potentially be in a position to just make the victory as pyrrhic as possible
I get what you mean, and that's in a normal scenario, the ocassional uprising, quell and subvert
but im talking about global revolution, the bottom showing no signs of stopping
then they lose power and the people elect someone else to lay all the blame on. remember napoleon?
even if it's a bandwagon effect, the oligarchs staring down actually losing it all
the 'people' will win, for now until we get robots to quell uprisings
i do, but what specifically are you referring
remember when the french revolution was all about beheading the aristocracy, and getting freedom and democracy by force?
yeah
until democracy fails (like it always does) and they elect another super tyrant to blame. Napoleon
same could be said for Hitler in a way too i guess
that's why the founding fathers of US didnt insitute a democracy per se
that's right. a republic which restricted the franchise of voters to those who were responsible\
land owners
then something happened in 1920, and we have this mess
not gonna say what happened during that time, but a certain someone who never earned the right to vote, sort of just 'got it'
nah nah, it's never just one thing, that's honestly too easy of a solution.
is it?
IS IT!?
yes
1913. the fed was created, and the federal income tax system
Okay, guess we'll never solve the problem then
which in turn shifted the way money flows in the US away from the states
it used to go, Citizen - STATE - Federal
and the states determined how much money the federal was allowed to have
now it's Citizen - FEDERAL - State
and the states have to essentially beg for their own money in the form of the federal subsidy
I agree
Direct Unapportioned taxes, as they are in the Federal Income Tax are Illegal according to the US constitution
however, i believe the looming issue lies in unbridled democracy
however, it's always been upheld in court
of course, those courts were always federal court, so no fucking surprise there
It's unbridled democracy, combined with ignorance, propaganda and demegogory
federal courts are like the rest of the government... massively overreaching their mandate.
the people doing the voting are too stupid to realize they are voting away their own futures, freedoms and self determination
we need a net taxpayer votes for congress, and the veterans and soldiers that can meet the male standard vote for the president
and the citizens vote for their own state governors i guess
that way no one can lobby without losing their rights to being anet taxpayer and thus the stupid law or policy they lobbied can be repealed or remended by the sensible net taxpayers
and while I don't believe that we should go back in time with regards to women/people of color/etc being able to vote on those factors, I do think you shouldnt be allowed to vote unless you can pass a basic civics course