im not saying all of them, but the right number could potentially be in a position to just make the victory as pyrrhic as possible

I get what you mean, and that's in a normal scenario, the ocassional uprising, quell and subvert

but im talking about global revolution, the bottom showing no signs of stopping

then they lose power and the people elect someone else to lay all the blame on. remember napoleon?

even if it's a bandwagon effect, the oligarchs staring down actually losing it all

the 'people' will win, for now until we get robots to quell uprisings

i do, but what specifically are you referring

remember when the french revolution was all about beheading the aristocracy, and getting freedom and democracy by force?

yeah

until democracy fails (like it always does) and they elect another super tyrant to blame. Napoleon

same could be said for Hitler in a way too i guess

that's why the founding fathers of US didnt insitute a democracy per se

that's right. a republic which restricted the franchise of voters to those who were responsible\

land owners

then something happened in 1920, and we have this mess

not gonna say what happened during that time, but a certain someone who never earned the right to vote, sort of just 'got it'

nah nah, it's never just one thing, that's honestly too easy of a solution.

is it?

IS IT!?

it's always a series of small things, operating in tempo

yes

1913. the fed was created, and the federal income tax system

Okay, guess we'll never solve the problem then

which in turn shifted the way money flows in the US away from the states

it used to go, Citizen - STATE - Federal

and the states determined how much money the federal was allowed to have

now it's Citizen - FEDERAL - State

and the states have to essentially beg for their own money in the form of the federal subsidy

I agree

Direct Unapportioned taxes, as they are in the Federal Income Tax are Illegal according to the US constitution

however, i believe the looming issue lies in unbridled democracy

however, it's always been upheld in court

of course, those courts were always federal court, so no fucking surprise there

It's unbridled democracy, combined with ignorance, propaganda and demegogory

federal courts are like the rest of the government... massively overreaching their mandate.

the people doing the voting are too stupid to realize they are voting away their own futures, freedoms and self determination

we need a net taxpayer votes for congress, and the veterans and soldiers that can meet the male standard vote for the president

and the citizens vote for their own state governors i guess

that way no one can lobby without losing their rights to being anet taxpayer and thus the stupid law or policy they lobbied can be repealed or remended by the sensible net taxpayers

and while I don't believe that we should go back in time with regards to women/people of color/etc being able to vote on those factors, I do think you shouldnt be allowed to vote unless you can pass a basic civics course

the ability to vote can be more devestating or rewarding than a gun