@MCM 💯 Also your country is just blatantly ignoring democracy when it suits them

my personal take is this, on one hand there NEEDS to be a global revolution for the citizens of ALL countries, espeically the NATO ones to take their rights back from the Oligarchs. On the other hand, the Oligarchs might be crazy enough to just do a scorched Earth policy and nuke everything.

the question is: could the people move fast enough and eliminate them before they do that.

the oligarchs would never scorched earth nuke everything

would enough of the command infrastructure hesistat or resist in such a scenario

they need that serf life. serf's up dude!

i dont know man, Narcissists hate to lose more then fear of death

the reason they wont is because they need the 'bottom' people to work the land and whatnot

im not saying all of them, but the right number could potentially be in a position to just make the victory as pyrrhic as possible

I get what you mean, and that's in a normal scenario, the ocassional uprising, quell and subvert

but im talking about global revolution, the bottom showing no signs of stopping

then they lose power and the people elect someone else to lay all the blame on. remember napoleon?

even if it's a bandwagon effect, the oligarchs staring down actually losing it all

the 'people' will win, for now until we get robots to quell uprisings

i do, but what specifically are you referring

remember when the french revolution was all about beheading the aristocracy, and getting freedom and democracy by force?

yeah

until democracy fails (like it always does) and they elect another super tyrant to blame. Napoleon

same could be said for Hitler in a way too i guess

that's why the founding fathers of US didnt insitute a democracy per se

that's right. a republic which restricted the franchise of voters to those who were responsible\

land owners

then something happened in 1920, and we have this mess

not gonna say what happened during that time, but a certain someone who never earned the right to vote, sort of just 'got it'

nah nah, it's never just one thing, that's honestly too easy of a solution.

is it?

IS IT!?

it's always a series of small things, operating in tempo

yes

1913. the fed was created, and the federal income tax system

Okay, guess we'll never solve the problem then

which in turn shifted the way money flows in the US away from the states

it used to go, Citizen - STATE - Federal

and the states determined how much money the federal was allowed to have

now it's Citizen - FEDERAL - State

and the states have to essentially beg for their own money in the form of the federal subsidy

I agree

Direct Unapportioned taxes, as they are in the Federal Income Tax are Illegal according to the US constitution

however, i believe the looming issue lies in unbridled democracy

however, it's always been upheld in court

of course, those courts were always federal court, so no fucking surprise there

It's unbridled democracy, combined with ignorance, propaganda and demegogory