Message from @ManAnimal
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reasonable... i guess
kek
Basically, I’m against the government controlling marriage as a whole. It should be up to you and whichever church is willing to marry you.
I don’t think the government should be in the business of legalizing or criminalizing marriage. Straight or gay.
I also believe that marriage shouldn’t give you any rights or privileges that unmarried folks have.
Marriage is a deal between you, your spouse and God. If your church is ok with it, go nuts.
All the legal benefits of marriage should be handled via contract law.
hmmmm
hmm, not so sure how i feel about that though. I mean, a marriage is more than just a contract
i mean i dont think encouraging straight couples to get married is bad..
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Exactly my point. It is more that simply a contract.
tax incentives and etc
i am not so sure you can encourage traditional male/female nuclear families in an enviornment were people can actively violate the vehicles of that interaction
I don’t believe the government, a secular institution, should be in the business of incentivizing marriage, a religious institution.
gender roles are vital for boys and girls to understand what the other expects AND what the joint priorities outside their own wants SHOULD be
@Scale_e exactly ... if you're gay you go to gurch and get garried
i mean a lot of western culture is inspired by a religious foundation...
our justice system and so on
There should be *something* that incentives good families, sure, not marriage. Call it something else and handle it with lawyers, not priests.
religion used to serve as the 'wrapper' for the expectations of growing up, getting married and having a family
the majority of people don't learn to think of the future until they have a stake which does occur until children come along
that means that even those without kids don't respect the priority of children nor do they respect the boundaries or philosophy of erroring on the side of caution
i wouldnt say ima devout Christian but... i do find value in the ideas and traditions that it instilled in our society. the idea of each person having value and so on. I think to completely throw it all in the rubbish bin is a mistake and to also over-emphasize it is a mistake.
i.e. when women are children are in earshot, one should watch their p's and q's
but then again... you start letting certain values slip... next thing you know the gays are getting married
this is a rather archaic idea
i think as a chrisitan, regardles if you yourself have children, you come to respect and value 'legacy
@livid_scrooge Ofc you'd do that, you're hella disabled
both mentally and physically
and community
tolerance inherently sounds great.. until you tolerate things to the point where... well now there is a parade that displays the pride in sodomy
too much of ANYTHING is bad
now i see why the mods bullied you
tolerate too much and you paint a target on your back
👏🏻 you don't need a parade to be proud of being gay 👏🏻
you dont need a soul either
pride is the worst of the deadly sins
if tolerance is the no 1 value, then those that give a damn about ANYTHING, even children or the future always LOSE
that shiz is in the 9th circle yo
it incentivizes apathy and abuse