Message from @Snake

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2019-10-16 19:40:29 UTC  

Typically I'd say failing to vote is a vote for the prevailing candidate.

2019-10-16 19:40:37 UTC  

I think you're right on this issue Shai'tan

2019-10-16 19:45:00 UTC  

thanks, i try to think local first. just because this is the federal election does not mean that you are not also voting for someone to represent you. its how i voted in the last election when I had no real good choice. Glad Icould help someone who is in the same position this time around.

2019-10-16 20:00:46 UTC  

Not voting means you leave it up to others to decide who wins. The only time not voting works is if everyone else does the same.

2019-10-16 20:01:39 UTC  

Better to pick the next best alternative even if they're trash.

2019-10-16 21:36:00 UTC  

But also don’t vote if you don’t care enough to look up
I hate the stupid arguments to vote even if you can’t be bothered to check it out

2019-10-16 21:36:42 UTC  

I can agree to that, throwing your vote is no better than not voting.

2019-10-16 21:37:52 UTC  

imagine if christian heritage got a majority

2019-10-16 21:38:22 UTC  

Like the student votes and stuff is annoy because they literally have zero clue how election works, generally just vote with parents
I hear one say “wtf the ballot didn’t have Trudeau on it!”

2019-10-16 21:38:44 UTC  

yes, lowering the voting age is a terrible terrible idea.

2019-10-16 21:39:40 UTC  

But I’m of the mind people should have to earn citizenship

2019-10-16 21:41:18 UTC  

Earn Citizenship? or just demonstrate a competence to have the right to vote

2019-10-16 21:43:04 UTC  

but that would make the government decide who is competent enough but making them answer biased questions

2019-10-16 21:48:33 UTC  

Earn as in service

2019-10-16 21:49:26 UTC  

Military or community (charity) service

2019-10-16 21:50:30 UTC  

Learn how service others, to subordinate to the collective (connection to Social culture) then allowing development of the individual

2019-10-16 22:48:53 UTC  

I think voting age should be moved to 25 and you must also be paying income tax (and be a citizen of course)

2019-10-16 22:50:51 UTC  

I will vote PPC even though they will not win. My biggest hope is for CPC to win and actually be useful for once and defund CBC

2019-10-16 22:53:28 UTC  

I live in an area full of immigrants and received a pamphlet from the local liberal candidate. All it talked about is how she loves immigrants and wants to protect my rights and diversity............ Nothing about actual policy. It was so condescending.

2019-10-16 22:55:34 UTC  

She thinks people who immigrated here think of themselves as completely apart from Canadians and only care about themselves. Nah son, lot of us integrate and want a better Canada. Lower my taxes and get the government out of my butthole

2019-10-16 23:49:47 UTC  

Every time I look at the name of this place I think California politics

2019-10-16 23:49:59 UTC  

Er, sorry Canada

2019-10-16 23:56:39 UTC  

@D3bug_logic starship troopers

2019-10-17 00:05:06 UTC  

its eh sorry canada to you @Snake

2019-10-17 00:05:24 UTC  

in some ways but i dont think only military service is essential

2019-10-17 00:06:38 UTC  

i think that it is correct that for something to be worthwhile it must be earned

2019-10-17 01:17:33 UTC  

@kennith @Sydoh No, you guys are both wrong. There needs to be a point when you refuse to vote for anyone. I'm not even saying we are necessarily at that point but, it is vital that we recognize that is a point.

2019-10-17 01:18:35 UTC  

If you have to vote for one of the big 4 it would be better to vote Liberal imo. They are awful obviously but, we could have a better Conservative Party in the future but, they NEED to lose this election for them to change.

2019-10-17 01:18:58 UTC  

If Andrew Scheer wins this election that will send the message 'what you are doing now is fine.'

2019-10-17 01:19:19 UTC  

He if loses the CPC will be forced to change and we will have to try to force that into the right direction.

2019-10-17 01:19:46 UTC  

A CPC Majority would be BY FAR the worst (realistic) outcome of this election.

2019-10-17 01:33:59 UTC  

i very much doubt a majority conservative,
right now we are undergoing an attempt by the central government to consolidate power. Trudeau and co, NDP, greens and cons. Just wish to prevent creative destruction (SNC, boarders, healthcare) to push towards more efficient societies

SNC should be the biggest issue as it is protecting the corrupt and fearing creative destruction and rewarding bad behaviour

2019-10-17 01:41:17 UTC  

There will be a conservative win, and a left coalition

2019-10-17 01:41:28 UTC  

Conservative minority

2019-10-17 01:42:05 UTC  

The globalist progressive left will show that they aren't really that different and join forces

2019-10-17 01:42:50 UTC  

If Scheer has some personality it could've been a conservative majority

2019-10-17 01:43:26 UTC  

Or $deity forbid max had won the conservative nomination

2019-10-17 01:43:52 UTC  

But the globalist right Banded together and blocked him

2019-10-17 01:44:25 UTC  

Also fucking what how did it come to the point where globalist isn't a conspiracy word

2019-10-17 02:01:59 UTC  

@Settler's Lament I understand what you're getting at, but it doesn't work. Even if 50% of elgible voters abstained from voting, parliament would still be elected from the voters that DO vote. I dont' think it would be possible to convince the electorate to abstain from voting. As @Sydoh pointed out, if you DON'T vote, you defer your vote to those that DO vote.

I don't think there are even rules about a required minimum of voters that are required to consider the election valid.

What happens when only 10% of eligible voters vote.. I suspect, business as usual.

I don't disagree with you, Andrew Scheer and his party are NOT conservatives.
It's ridiculous, but the second best, and most realistic way for change to come to both the Lib/Con would be an NDP minority government. Which I do think would force another general election.

Obviously, best case scenario is a PPC majority, but we all know that's not very likely.

2019-10-17 02:03:25 UTC  

@SkepticalWaves indeed, this globalist stuff was consipiracy theory 10 years ago. Maybe my unhinged Acoustics and Media teacher wasn't so unhinged after all...