Message from @ETBrooD
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People don't believe in God because he doesn't reveal himself in any way, shape or form, and he doesn't appear to have a say in earthly matters. So to believe in him is an exercise in pure faith, not reason. And atheists do not typically like to put faith above reason.
Well I used to, conversation is always good @JoeyJoestar1337
It's fine that some people choose to believe in God, but it must be a personal choice that doesn't affect politics.
Then we can all live together happily.
Also, I doubt all people "hate to see the seven deadly sins in people"
Lust? Perfectly accepted even by many Christians
Gluttony? Standard practice also by many Christians
Greed? Semi-standard practice even by many people you wouldn't expect it from
Sloth? Universally standard practice
Wrath? Pretty wide-spread
Envy? All the time, literally all the time, almost everyone experiences it
Pride? Same as envy, maybe even more
If those sins were so bad that we'd all "hate to see it", we'd be constantly hateful
We'd have nothing but hate in our souls
And then I'd have to ask: why is hate not on the list of deadly sins?
Or why is hubris not on the list? After all it's often the precursor to other deadly sins
Hubris goes under Pride.
Maybe, alright
Hate is also a little too generalized. Hate is also necessary, as hate is highly dependent on personal perspective.
I hate pain, but masochists love that shit
And sadists love inflicting it.
I love sex, but lust is a deadly sin
See the problem? You can continue this train of logic
It's undesirable lol. We hate thots, fat people, millionaires, lazy people, people who take stuff to seriously, people who *waaaaant* stuff that don't need it, and people full of themselves. Just because Christian's do it too doesn't make us hypocrites it's what makes us and all human. And with all that being undesirable you'd think there's a higher standard of what people should properly be to deal/confront the world and reality itself.
My issue with relating the Bible to the deadly sins is the Bible doesn't go over how all of them can be accepted, but in excess they become deadly. The sins were pre-Jesus.
I don't hate thots, or fat people, or millionaires, or lazy people
I agree with lios hate is a generalization its probably an issue with my vernacular
I think hate is a mostly harmful feeling
Totes
I agree
The Bible says lust is more deadly than hate, how am I supposed to believe that?
Lust literally creates life
Hate doesn't typically
Because if you gave into your sexy gf's every desire and be her penny pig it's worse than just being a hateful jerk because then people could/would just ignore you. At least in a perfect world. You'd probably be arrested or killed.
Or something
I mean
If we put that in equal terms, then if you hate everything and everyone, or if you lust after everything and everyone
I'd say hate kills a lot more
Until you summon Slaanesh. Should probably watch how far we go.
I think what the Bible often lacks is proper context
A few days ago I criticized the story of Noah's arc
Not necessarily you can hate and not have to kill people. Just like you can lust and accidentally squeeze to hard when she says choke me.
Then they me too you or just die
The idea of the seven sins is excess. Any of them can work, without causing much, or any harm, but in excess they become what they were named for: Deadly.
What does his story teach us? He believed there were signs that a huge, never before seen flood would come and he centered his whole life around surviving that flood. He had no piece of evidence except what God told him. Now, no one else had God tell them that there was a flood coming, so from a purely scientific perspective, Noah was vastly outmatched by the evidence.
And what happened? The flood came, he survived, along with the animal kingdom, and he was proven right.
How is that a good moral of the story? Noah was clearly insane. He should've been proven wrong, the flood should've never come.
It wasn't a moral statement, it was a "fear me" from God.