(In a Liberal philosophy)

The State is the main threat to Liberty

Then your system of government is flawed

Liberty wasn't a problem before the state because people could just do what they want

The State reduces Liberty for the sake of order

would you say that man, before the state, was fully free?

The only way to increase Liberty is to decrease the role of the State

all ancaps are hypocrites

And vice verse the only threat to Liberty is the State playing a greater role

the govt is literally just another corporation

bruh what

by every fucking definition of the word

it was mutually agreed upon by a group of people

@Αγωνιζῆς Yes they were, There were no laws and thus no restrictions on what we could do

it has a set property

does your government turn a profit for its investors?😂

a corporation is not required to turn a profit

retard

the state sacrifices liberty to guarantee safety, some measure of safety is necessary in any stable society, it is up to us to determine how much.

no

the state sacrifices "liberty" for liberty

the liberty of one individual shall not infringe upon another's

else the system would be hypocritical and meaningless

ancaps are so damn easy to dispel

We can never be truly free in the sense that we can do absoloutely anything because even in the primal days we couldn't do anything because we could be killed however the best way to incease Liberty in the modern world is to decrease the state

no, you are in fact free

as much as in primal days

No we are not

yes you are

Because of the State

no

you just have to be around a higher number of people

I can't own a sword mate, no we're not

If i say something the state dislikes i can be arrested

That's not called being free

\#NotAll

you can own a sword. not in public though

Unless you consider North Koreans to also be free

the state is not defined by that

you retard

a state *can* do that