Message from @Shai'tan
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How do we know that though
And can we trust studies or narratives to not be edited by the corrupted academia
By it not making any difference to thousands of men's lives so far.
This is a question as well
That’s also an argument to continue though. Don’t you see
Outside apparently uncircumcised is better for anal
Lol. I have no plans to do anal
Let us say it was useful. lets say it cut penile cancer by 300%. why do it in infancy and not let the child make the decision at 18 when they can have naistetics?
Because tradition
Why is it so important the child chooses...hmmm idk
Personally. I don’t think people even at 18 should be allowed to undergo gender transition.
the better question is why do it when there is no method to dull the pain
Hmmm....
Now that’s an interesting point
"why is it so important that a living being has a say in an irreversible process that directly affects them"<:hyperthink:462282519883284480>
But pain I mean... what does that pain I don’t remember do to me
Random that same thing could see said about transgenderism
Maybe the whole “Ok, Boomer” thing is not about actual Boomers. It’s just a shorthand way to invalidate a person by saying, “you’re old and don’t have anything credible to say.” But there is something to learn from people who have had different life experiences than you, and helped build the society that you live in.
Now, there is always something that could be improved and we should constantly strive to be better, but we all stand on the shoulders of giants. Don’t despise an entire generation based off of an overly generalized characterization.
People are not idiots that lack credibility simply because they are Boomers. They are idiots because they’re economically illiterate, they believe in “reefer madness” hysteria, or they’re Joe Biden (but I repeat myself).
So if I concede on that I concede on transgenderism as well. Principally speaking
Same, that's why I say stop transitioning kids until they can actually understand what it is and means
As a philosophical thought experiment, would it be fine to tattoo a whole infant blue., painful, unnessisary but ultimately reversible.
That’s not a valid comparison
Kids are potential people, and the only responsibility society has is to make sure they become people without any increased pressure. So they can make their own decisions without hurdles that may have been placed in childhood
Hmm idk.
I think some pressure is important lol
howabout just a spot on thier stomache then? 2"by"2 circle
It is, but not excessive pressure
Well a tattoo isn’t a removal of flesh. So idk.... it’s not quite... equivalent right
I’m just trying to hone your analogy a bit
no its actually very reversable, and less painful
Hmmm what is excessive pressure
but that makes people VERY uncomfrotable to think about
Basically, childhood should be in such a way that when you turn 18 you can scrap it and make entirely new decisions on how you're living your life. You don't have to, you just should be able to. That means nothing irreversible before 18
See I think that’s a new way of perceiving this stuff
And I’m not comfortable with modernity
Just scrap your childhood.. and etc. it doesn’t matter blah de blah
And I don’t see convincing evidence to suggest it’s a better way of perceiving the world
Maybe even the decisions of adults should be guided. Maybe the masses need guidance. Pressure. To some degree.
thats not the point of it actually, its not that is not important, its that ritualistic scaring to bring you into the tribe is less useful than instead forming important bonds within the community itself.
You don't have to scrap your childhood, just saying you should be able to. As in there shouldn't be anything that happened pre18 that will follow the rest of your life wether you want it to or not
Idk i disgareee... for example. Society in America used to be way more centered around Christianity. Going to church as a community etc etc.