Message from @Shai'tan

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2019-11-22 19:21:34 UTC  

How do we know that though

2019-11-22 19:22:05 UTC  

And can we trust studies or narratives to not be edited by the corrupted academia

2019-11-22 19:22:06 UTC  

By it not making any difference to thousands of men's lives so far.

2019-11-22 19:22:10 UTC  

This is a question as well

2019-11-22 19:22:38 UTC  

That’s also an argument to continue though. Don’t you see

2019-11-22 19:22:53 UTC  

Outside apparently uncircumcised is better for anal

2019-11-22 19:23:04 UTC  

Lol. I have no plans to do anal

2019-11-22 19:23:34 UTC  

Let us say it was useful. lets say it cut penile cancer by 300%. why do it in infancy and not let the child make the decision at 18 when they can have naistetics?

2019-11-22 19:24:08 UTC  

Because tradition

2019-11-22 19:24:09 UTC  

Why is it so important the child chooses...hmmm idk

2019-11-22 19:24:36 UTC  

Personally. I don’t think people even at 18 should be allowed to undergo gender transition.

2019-11-22 19:24:40 UTC  

the better question is why do it when there is no method to dull the pain

2019-11-22 19:24:48 UTC  

Hmmm....

2019-11-22 19:24:59 UTC  

Now that’s an interesting point

2019-11-22 19:25:08 UTC  

"why is it so important that a living being has a say in an irreversible process that directly affects them"<:hyperthink:462282519883284480>

2019-11-22 19:25:13 UTC  

But pain I mean... what does that pain I don’t remember do to me

2019-11-22 19:25:42 UTC  

Random that same thing could see said about transgenderism

2019-11-22 19:26:04 UTC  

Maybe the whole “Ok, Boomer” thing is not about actual Boomers. It’s just a shorthand way to invalidate a person by saying, “you’re old and don’t have anything credible to say.” But there is something to learn from people who have had different life experiences than you, and helped build the society that you live in.
Now, there is always something that could be improved and we should constantly strive to be better, but we all stand on the shoulders of giants. Don’t despise an entire generation based off of an overly generalized characterization.
People are not idiots that lack credibility simply because they are Boomers. They are idiots because they’re economically illiterate, they believe in “reefer madness” hysteria, or they’re Joe Biden (but I repeat myself).

2019-11-22 19:26:07 UTC  

So if I concede on that I concede on transgenderism as well. Principally speaking

2019-11-22 19:26:20 UTC  

Same, that's why I say stop transitioning kids until they can actually understand what it is and means

2019-11-22 19:27:48 UTC  

As a philosophical thought experiment, would it be fine to tattoo a whole infant blue., painful, unnessisary but ultimately reversible.

2019-11-22 19:28:10 UTC  

That’s not a valid comparison

2019-11-22 19:28:19 UTC  

Kids are potential people, and the only responsibility society has is to make sure they become people without any increased pressure. So they can make their own decisions without hurdles that may have been placed in childhood

2019-11-22 19:28:34 UTC  

Hmm idk.

2019-11-22 19:28:40 UTC  

I think some pressure is important lol

2019-11-22 19:28:45 UTC  

howabout just a spot on thier stomache then? 2"by"2 circle

2019-11-22 19:28:55 UTC  

It is, but not excessive pressure

2019-11-22 19:29:17 UTC  

Well a tattoo isn’t a removal of flesh. So idk.... it’s not quite... equivalent right

2019-11-22 19:29:29 UTC  

I’m just trying to hone your analogy a bit

2019-11-22 19:29:33 UTC  

no its actually very reversable, and less painful

2019-11-22 19:29:53 UTC  

Hmmm what is excessive pressure

2019-11-22 19:30:08 UTC  

but that makes people VERY uncomfrotable to think about

2019-11-22 19:30:33 UTC  

Basically, childhood should be in such a way that when you turn 18 you can scrap it and make entirely new decisions on how you're living your life. You don't have to, you just should be able to. That means nothing irreversible before 18

2019-11-22 19:30:48 UTC  

See I think that’s a new way of perceiving this stuff

2019-11-22 19:30:54 UTC  

And I’m not comfortable with modernity

2019-11-22 19:31:09 UTC  

Just scrap your childhood.. and etc. it doesn’t matter blah de blah

2019-11-22 19:31:32 UTC  

And I don’t see convincing evidence to suggest it’s a better way of perceiving the world

2019-11-22 19:32:24 UTC  

Maybe even the decisions of adults should be guided. Maybe the masses need guidance. Pressure. To some degree.

2019-11-22 19:32:48 UTC  

thats not the point of it actually, its not that is not important, its that ritualistic scaring to bring you into the tribe is less useful than instead forming important bonds within the community itself.

2019-11-22 19:32:55 UTC  

You don't have to scrap your childhood, just saying you should be able to. As in there shouldn't be anything that happened pre18 that will follow the rest of your life wether you want it to or not

2019-11-22 19:33:44 UTC  

Idk i disgareee... for example. Society in America used to be way more centered around Christianity. Going to church as a community etc etc.