Message from @UnScottable
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And it’s like.... hmm one decision is like.. well I didn’t do it because strangers who aren’t in my family made fun of it or viewed it as bad. And the other choice is like... I did it because it’s been done for hundreds of years in my lineage
I mean in General the idea of any form of permanent purely cosmetic surgery on an infant tends to be a violation of the right to bodily autonomy no?
Everyone being an individual with all this freedom and autonomy is a new concept.
Relatively new.
You said you where Christian, this is a provably false thing. Non Jewish/Muslim circumcision hasn't even been around for 100yrs
Oh really
Hmm..
Started by some fuckwit trying to stop masturbation, remember?
Idk maaaannn it seems rather subjective to me still but that might just be bias.
The largest push in the global effort came with the aids epidemic with it being used to try and reduce its spread (and promptly making it worse)
Im thinking. I can choose to either view the choice my parents made as being the wrong choice or not, in this case so... hmm idk I’m on the fence really. I don’t view it as the wrong decision and we said earlier the differences between those who are and aren’t seems subjective really. How do you know what the other way is like
Cuz I’m not having sex with people who have aids
Lol
Not wrong, just wrong today. We know better now
Do we really
What evidence is there
We know it's pointless outside religion
How do we know that though
And can we trust studies or narratives to not be edited by the corrupted academia
By it not making any difference to thousands of men's lives so far.
That’s also an argument to continue though. Don’t you see
Outside apparently uncircumcised is better for anal
Lol. I have no plans to do anal
Let us say it was useful. lets say it cut penile cancer by 300%. why do it in infancy and not let the child make the decision at 18 when they can have naistetics?
Because tradition
Why is it so important the child chooses...hmmm idk
Personally. I don’t think people even at 18 should be allowed to undergo gender transition.
the better question is why do it when there is no method to dull the pain
Hmmm....
Now that’s an interesting point
"why is it so important that a living being has a say in an irreversible process that directly affects them"<:hyperthink:462282519883284480>
But pain I mean... what does that pain I don’t remember do to me
Random that same thing could see said about transgenderism
Maybe the whole “Ok, Boomer” thing is not about actual Boomers. It’s just a shorthand way to invalidate a person by saying, “you’re old and don’t have anything credible to say.” But there is something to learn from people who have had different life experiences than you, and helped build the society that you live in.
Now, there is always something that could be improved and we should constantly strive to be better, but we all stand on the shoulders of giants. Don’t despise an entire generation based off of an overly generalized characterization.
People are not idiots that lack credibility simply because they are Boomers. They are idiots because they’re economically illiterate, they believe in “reefer madness” hysteria, or they’re Joe Biden (but I repeat myself).
So if I concede on that I concede on transgenderism as well. Principally speaking
Same, that's why I say stop transitioning kids until they can actually understand what it is and means
As a philosophical thought experiment, would it be fine to tattoo a whole infant blue., painful, unnessisary but ultimately reversible.
That’s not a valid comparison
Kids are potential people, and the only responsibility society has is to make sure they become people without any increased pressure. So they can make their own decisions without hurdles that may have been placed in childhood
Hmm idk.