People who aren’t in my family or community

Not always barbaric, that depends on the doctor. But definitely archaic

Well it should always be done in a sterilized advanced medical facility. Always. I think given what we know about bacteria... etc the importance of sanitation, this view doesn’t seem as subjective to me

Now a big thing I wonder. Is if I ever had children what would I do?

Shhheeett... I have no idea lol like I said I’m torn

Just don't, what do you reasonably gain from it other than "his looks like mine"

Hating FGM in Islam and being circumcised is one of those things that cause cognitive dissonance and I’m not sure what to do about it ... and idk I’d have to look more into the life long effects of it

Does it make you naturally more resistant to pain? Is this a bad thing or good thing,.. idk lol I don’t know the data on this

Then again when my parents did this they didn’t obsess over the data

Is that not a post modern way of viewing this

Supposedly desensitization, but I've never heard an account from someone who experienced both. So it's all subjective

There's no real proof to any of it's benefits or detriments. Just whether they're cut or not. So the only decision that you actually have to struggle with if you only care about decisions with facts behind it is wether to snip the tip or leave it alone. If you're uncomfortable with the idea of someone snipping a piece of your child off right after birth, then don't do it.

If it doesn't bug you than it doesn't bug you

See to me... hmm I’d imagine if I didn’t my parents would be like... “ehh why bruh”

So I’d have to have a reasonable explanation as to why I didn’t to some degree

So you'd do it because you cave to social pressure?

Even for just my self.. really

I like to try and understand what’s behind decisions

So if I pick one or the other I’d have to have some kind of... idk... foundation to the decision

If someone asks why you're against circumcision just ask why they're for it. No one has an answer outside of religion

And it’s like.... hmm one decision is like.. well I didn’t do it because strangers who aren’t in my family made fun of it or viewed it as bad. And the other choice is like... I did it because it’s been done for hundreds of years in my lineage

I mean in General the idea of any form of permanent purely cosmetic surgery on an infant tends to be a violation of the right to bodily autonomy no?

Everyone being an individual with all this freedom and autonomy is a new concept.

Relatively new.

You said you where Christian, this is a provably false thing. Non Jewish/Muslim circumcision hasn't even been around for 100yrs

Oh really

Hmm..

Started by some fuckwit trying to stop masturbation, remember?

Idk maaaannn it seems rather subjective to me still but that might just be bias.

The largest push in the global effort came with the aids epidemic with it being used to try and reduce its spread (and promptly making it worse)

Im thinking. I can choose to either view the choice my parents made as being the wrong choice or not, in this case so... hmm idk I’m on the fence really. I don’t view it as the wrong decision and we said earlier the differences between those who are and aren’t seems subjective really. How do you know what the other way is like

Cuz I’m not having sex with people who have aids

Lol

Not wrong, just wrong today. We know better now

Do we really

What evidence is there

We know it's pointless outside religion

How do we know that though

And can we trust studies or narratives to not be edited by the corrupted academia

By it not making any difference to thousands of men's lives so far.

This is a question as well