Message from @ZX
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Explain how it does that?
are there any fascists in history that did not deep dive into becoming a socialist?
Mosley
he started as a socialist no?
Then moved towards Syndiclism
Which I don't really consider to be socialism.
It should be self evident in how fascism simultaneously claims to have an active state (read, the state as a moral actor) and also has one of its benefits being that it can switch whether it allows for a free market or controls the market depending on what is best for the state
By the state, they mean the moral actor, the governing body
And why is that a bad thing? @ZX
By the governing body they mean the one-party leadership that makes everything centered around the war effort in order to compete with other nations militarily.
In the instances when they were at war, sure.
Fascism is based on the idea that everything must be within the state; nothing outside or against it.
But that's simply a wartime economy.
Any ideology can and does have that.
Dude, the fascist states of Europe literally started World War II
And the ones after it?
No second world war then?
Which ones?
Nor a third?
Portugal, Spain, Greece
China to an extent could be considered Fascist
Really, Portugal, Spain, and Greece are fascist?
Were
There was one in South America as well
Chile was it?
And you're citing Ching Chong? The most aggressive country in SE Asia that is currently seeing just how far it can push before someone pushes back?
lol... some things never change "In 1926, the Labour-held seat of Smethwick fell vacant, and Mosley returned to Parliament after winning the resulting by-election on 21 December. Mosley felt the campaign was dominated by Conservative attacks on him for being too rich, including claims that he was covering up his wealth."
The country which has gone from literally nothing to being the second largest economy on the planet, is now exporting its culture around the world and is growing in influence across the planet.
Yeah, that China.
Is China your ideal state?
In some regards, yes
They literally harvest organs from people who think wrong
*In some regards*
*depends on what you mean by organs*
This is what fascism brings when it runs unchecked
It brings horrors like this
Fascism is a collectivist ideology
Because of this, it needs an out-group to maintain in-group cohesion
This out-group must be easy to identify and easy to malign, otherwise the cohesive structure doesn't form
Meh, complain all you like. They're going to become the worlds dominant power, with the largest economy.
They're going to be the ones exporting their culture and ideology around the world, as we once did.