Message from @Legitimate [OCE]
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That's another dumb thing that s3vrige repeats, he's wrong
lets meet up in 20 years and see who is healthier
Sure, vegans live longer and have less chronic disease so probably me lol
name one civilization that eats an pure vegan diet
there is none
humans are designed from the ground up to be omnivores
Even herbivores are opportunistic
Straw man
I'm not arguing that
There has been civilisations that eat mostly plants though
And groups
Okinawan diet was like 97% plants
They used to be the longest living group in the world
Breakdown of Okinawan Diet by calories vs the rest of Japan
Everyone always assumes that people who hold differing points of view 'need to research more'
It's not about researching more, it's about researching different viewpoints
I know what raw meat advocates and the like say about veganism and most of it is just not true and can be disproved by a simple google search lol, people like s3vrige are especially bad with this
That nutrient list you gave, a lot of those nutrients come from plants originally and are absorbed by animals (like us)
"long chain fatty acids
iodine
iron
calcium
DHA
glucosimine
collagen
vitamin c
vitamin d3
vitamin k
magnesium
copper
potassium
zinc"
and still, they eat plenty of fish
1% of their caloric intake was fish
yet that 1% of fish gives them the DHS and omega 3 fatty acis thair brains and eyes crave
while plants do not
and while its true that all of these nutrients are in plants, their bioavalibility in the plants is extremely low
pittifully low
long chain fatty acids you can get from algae based supplements, which are pollutant free unlike fish oil
iodine is from the soil, which is absorbed by plants and then we eat them
iron is in legumes, nuts, seeds and grains
calcium is in legumes, nuts, seeds and greens
DHA is also from algae based supplements
collagen and glucosimine are not essential nutrients
vitamin C is from plants, especially fruit (scurvy was cured by limes, not meat)
vitamin d3 you can get from sunlight or supplements (worth taking actually because they are one of the only supplements that have actually been proven to increase lifespan)
vitamin k is from cruciferous vegetables
magnesium is in legumes, nuts, seeds, greens and other vegetables
copper and zinc are both minerals, so repeat
potassium is high in nearly all vegetables especially ones like tomatoes, legumes etc
so your saying the same shit you said before, which is "plants contain all these nurtients" which im not disagring with at all
what im saying is that the amount of these nutrients is small, and our bodies arent good at extracting these nutrients
Not just that they contain these nutrients, but at high amounts
we are not cows
we cant eat grass and get our daily protein
Yeah and we also don't ruminate lol idk what your point is
last I heard cows don't eat nuts, fruits and legumes etc
well, they can eat legumes but only if they are fed them
the amount of nutrients we absorb from all of these plants is low, so unless you want to eat about 5 pounds of veges a day, your better of with another diet
I don't eat that many veges, as I said most of it comes from legumes and nuts
Which are very nutrient dense, like animal products
if you want to eat a crazy amount of veges a day, be my guest, but RIP your anus
they are more dense than plants yes, but arent nearly as dense as animal products
It doesn't matter lol I can just eat a bit more