Message from @Legitimate [OCE]

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2019-01-22 05:28:45 UTC  

That's another dumb thing that s3vrige repeats, he's wrong

2019-01-22 05:28:47 UTC  

lets meet up in 20 years and see who is healthier

2019-01-22 05:29:01 UTC  

Sure, vegans live longer and have less chronic disease so probably me lol

2019-01-22 05:29:34 UTC  

name one civilization that eats an pure vegan diet

2019-01-22 05:29:41 UTC  

there is none

2019-01-22 05:29:54 UTC  

humans are designed from the ground up to be omnivores

2019-01-22 05:29:55 UTC  

Even herbivores are opportunistic

2019-01-22 05:29:56 UTC  

Straw man

2019-01-22 05:30:02 UTC  

I'm not arguing that

2019-01-22 05:30:23 UTC  

There has been civilisations that eat mostly plants though

2019-01-22 05:30:38 UTC  

And groups

2019-01-22 05:30:56 UTC  

Okinawan diet was like 97% plants

2019-01-22 05:31:08 UTC  

They used to be the longest living group in the world

2019-01-22 05:31:28 UTC  

Breakdown of Okinawan Diet by calories vs the rest of Japan

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/464144378936688655/537142235825831946/Okinawan.png

2019-01-22 05:32:15 UTC  

Everyone always assumes that people who hold differing points of view 'need to research more'

2019-01-22 05:32:29 UTC  

It's not about researching more, it's about researching different viewpoints

2019-01-22 05:33:41 UTC  

I know what raw meat advocates and the like say about veganism and most of it is just not true and can be disproved by a simple google search lol, people like s3vrige are especially bad with this

2019-01-22 05:34:04 UTC  

That nutrient list you gave, a lot of those nutrients come from plants originally and are absorbed by animals (like us)

2019-01-22 05:35:03 UTC  

"long chain fatty acids
iodine
iron
calcium
DHA
glucosimine
collagen
vitamin c
vitamin d3
vitamin k
magnesium
copper
potassium
zinc"

2019-01-22 05:35:45 UTC  

and still, they eat plenty of fish

2019-01-22 05:36:03 UTC  

Well as you can see, not really

2019-01-22 05:36:11 UTC  

1% of their caloric intake was fish

2019-01-22 05:36:55 UTC  

yet that 1% of fish gives them the DHS and omega 3 fatty acis thair brains and eyes crave

2019-01-22 05:37:02 UTC  

while plants do not

2019-01-22 05:38:06 UTC  

and while its true that all of these nutrients are in plants, their bioavalibility in the plants is extremely low

2019-01-22 05:38:16 UTC  

pittifully low

2019-01-22 05:39:46 UTC  

long chain fatty acids you can get from algae based supplements, which are pollutant free unlike fish oil
iodine is from the soil, which is absorbed by plants and then we eat them
iron is in legumes, nuts, seeds and grains
calcium is in legumes, nuts, seeds and greens
DHA is also from algae based supplements
collagen and glucosimine are not essential nutrients
vitamin C is from plants, especially fruit (scurvy was cured by limes, not meat)
vitamin d3 you can get from sunlight or supplements (worth taking actually because they are one of the only supplements that have actually been proven to increase lifespan)
vitamin k is from cruciferous vegetables
magnesium is in legumes, nuts, seeds, greens and other vegetables
copper and zinc are both minerals, so repeat
potassium is high in nearly all vegetables especially ones like tomatoes, legumes etc

2019-01-22 05:42:11 UTC  

so your saying the same shit you said before, which is "plants contain all these nurtients" which im not disagring with at all

2019-01-22 05:42:44 UTC  

what im saying is that the amount of these nutrients is small, and our bodies arent good at extracting these nutrients

2019-01-22 05:42:49 UTC  

Not just that they contain these nutrients, but at high amounts

2019-01-22 05:42:49 UTC  

we are not cows

2019-01-22 05:43:15 UTC  

we cant eat grass and get our daily protein

2019-01-22 05:43:34 UTC  

Yeah and we also don't ruminate lol idk what your point is

2019-01-22 05:43:44 UTC  

last I heard cows don't eat nuts, fruits and legumes etc

2019-01-22 05:43:56 UTC  

well, they can eat legumes but only if they are fed them

2019-01-22 05:44:08 UTC  

the amount of nutrients we absorb from all of these plants is low, so unless you want to eat about 5 pounds of veges a day, your better of with another diet

2019-01-22 05:44:29 UTC  

I don't eat that many veges, as I said most of it comes from legumes and nuts

2019-01-22 05:44:43 UTC  

Which are very nutrient dense, like animal products

2019-01-22 05:44:44 UTC  

if you want to eat a crazy amount of veges a day, be my guest, but RIP your anus

2019-01-22 05:45:06 UTC  

they are more dense than plants yes, but arent nearly as dense as animal products

2019-01-22 05:45:44 UTC  

It doesn't matter lol I can just eat a bit more