Message from @whiic
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If constitution only restricts the Federation but not the states, how do 5th A apply?
I mean, FBI **DIDN'T EVEN EXIST** originally, so 5th A would not apply to anyone at all! For fucks sake.
If FBI doesn't exist, there's no Federal police, and 5th A is meaningless.
Why was 5th A even passed if there's no federal power that it is affected by?
Again, where the fed has a delegated power it is supreme over the state. So all those civil rights override any local ordinance. But those powers *not specifically delegated to the fed* are free to local interpretation.
Well, I think 1st A overrides any local law to prohibit an atheist for running for an office.
And SCOTUS is on my side.
Because there are such laws, and they've consistently ruled unconstitutional.
USA has freedom from religion (in addition to freedom of religion).
I know it's a conservative talking point that USA has only freedom of, but not from, religion.
Which is why they passed local laws prohibiting atheists from attempting to run for any office.
No that is still freedom of religion. If your religion is 'atheist' federal supremacy steps in.
Atheist is not a religion.
Atheist is irreligion.
Irreligion is non-religion.
If you think atheism is a religion, what are their core tenets?
What are their holy books?
Horseshit. The old atheist saying is "Not bowling is not a sport" Well if you have not-bowler clubs that get together and talk about how great it is to not bowl you are a sport of sorts,
Nope. Not bowling is still not a sport.
IF a system of ideas not containing a deity is not a religion then Buddhism is not a religion and Scientology is not a religion.
For example those who follow material nihilism are distinct from Buddhists (most of who are still technically atheists, along with Satanists and some of the occultists).
Which warrants a correction to my previous statement: "Atheist is irreligion" because Buddhism can be called a religion... or a philosophy. Depends on the definition of "religion".
Well scientology has no gods either just aliens.....
They'd be about as religion as Buddhism, then.
Kind of doesn't matter, the IRS has classified some secular organizations as churches and granted them exemptions
But where as Buddhism can be a religion, atheism as whole is not.
And neither is "theism".
"Theism" is not one, singular religion. It's a category that contains all religions that believe in a god or gods.
>System of ideas? Atheists don't have one.
Not true at all
"Atheism" is not religion. It's a category that contains religions that don't include god or gods, as well as irreligiousness.
@ETBrooD What is the system of belief that **ALL** atheists hold true?
That wasn't your claim
You said atheists don't have *a* system of ideas, which I read as they don't have any system of ideas
Well, if all atheists don't have **one** system of belief, then atheist don't have **one**, by definition.
You mean atheists don't have a monolithic idea?
I said atheists don't have one.
Atheism is a collection of many beliefs, so there's more than one.
Atheism includes materialism and Buddhism.
Are they the fucking same thing?