Message from @ETBrooD

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2019-11-05 03:11:09 UTC  

Atheist is irreligion.

2019-11-05 03:11:19 UTC  

Irreligion is non-religion.

2019-11-05 03:12:45 UTC  

If you think atheism is a religion, what are their core tenets?

2019-11-05 03:12:53 UTC  

What are their holy books?

2019-11-05 03:13:18 UTC  

Horseshit. The old atheist saying is "Not bowling is not a sport" Well if you have not-bowler clubs that get together and talk about how great it is to not bowl you are a sport of sorts,

2019-11-05 03:14:09 UTC  

Nope. Not bowling is still not a sport.

2019-11-05 03:14:40 UTC  

IF a system of ideas not containing a deity is not a religion then Buddhism is not a religion and Scientology is not a religion.

2019-11-05 03:15:04 UTC  

System of ideas? Atheists don't have one.

2019-11-05 03:18:33 UTC  

For example those who follow material nihilism are distinct from Buddhists (most of who are still technically atheists, along with Satanists and some of the occultists).

2019-11-05 03:19:39 UTC  

Which warrants a correction to my previous statement: "Atheist is irreligion" because Buddhism can be called a religion... or a philosophy. Depends on the definition of "religion".

2019-11-05 03:20:29 UTC  

Well scientology has no gods either just aliens.....

2019-11-05 03:20:47 UTC  

They'd be about as religion as Buddhism, then.

2019-11-05 03:20:47 UTC  

Kind of doesn't matter, the IRS has classified some secular organizations as churches and granted them exemptions

2019-11-05 03:21:15 UTC  

But where as Buddhism can be a religion, atheism as whole is not.

2019-11-05 03:21:29 UTC  

And neither is "theism".

2019-11-05 03:22:02 UTC  

"Theism" is not one, singular religion. It's a category that contains all religions that believe in a god or gods.

2019-11-05 03:22:30 UTC  

>System of ideas? Atheists don't have one.
Not true at all

2019-11-05 03:22:39 UTC  

"Atheism" is not religion. It's a category that contains religions that don't include god or gods, as well as irreligiousness.

2019-11-05 03:22:56 UTC  

@ETBrooD What is the system of belief that **ALL** atheists hold true?

2019-11-05 03:23:13 UTC  

That wasn't your claim

2019-11-05 03:23:33 UTC  

You said atheists don't have *a* system of ideas, which I read as they don't have any system of ideas

2019-11-05 03:23:54 UTC  

Well, if all atheists don't have **one** system of belief, then atheist don't have **one**, by definition.

2019-11-05 03:24:10 UTC  

You mean atheists don't have a monolithic idea?

2019-11-05 03:24:13 UTC  

I said atheists don't have one.

2019-11-05 03:24:28 UTC  

Atheism is a collection of many beliefs, so there's more than one.

2019-11-05 03:24:37 UTC  

@ETBrooD **DUH!!**

2019-11-05 03:24:47 UTC  

Atheism includes materialism and Buddhism.

2019-11-05 03:24:53 UTC  

Are they the fucking same thing?

2019-11-05 03:24:55 UTC  

But not a single religion has a monolithic system of ideas either

2019-11-05 03:24:56 UTC  

Fucking retard.

2019-11-05 03:24:58 UTC  

What is the system of belief that all Christians hold true? Spoiler; there isn't one. People hold belief systems. At the time of the Founding those were all religions so they wrote it in those terms.

2019-11-05 03:25:16 UTC  

@Jym Jesus?

2019-11-05 03:25:19 UTC  

Christianity has a variety of systems of ideas

2019-11-05 03:25:25 UTC  

Same for Islam and Hinduism

2019-11-05 03:26:19 UTC  

@whiic

Which Jesus? Which version of his teachings? As varied as the atheistic religions when you examine it.

2019-11-05 03:26:35 UTC  

All Christians believe in Christ. The Bible. What other Jesus?

2019-11-05 03:26:53 UTC  

That's not a system of ideas

2019-11-05 03:27:20 UTC  

That's just the basis from which they derive, or attach to, a variety of other ideas

2019-11-05 03:27:40 UTC  

Is agnosticism a religion too?

2019-11-05 03:27:48 UTC  

Non-religions are by definition not religions

2019-11-05 03:27:57 UTC  

But atheism is a religion?