Message from @J_G_

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2018-07-13 18:29:16 UTC  

Folks, this thread is intended to let everyone partake in a conversation. I predict it will be mostly religious views and philosophy but not limited to just that. If you have something to bring to the table put it down. If you are a hypocrite it will become self evident.

2018-07-13 18:30:16 UTC  

correct me with impunity

2018-07-13 18:32:03 UTC  

@Sar the deceiver uses the mind to put you under the illusion of his lie. And that lie is intellect, knowledge, and judgment. Playing god is the original sin, and going to others as a godly figure of your intellect is of that same nature.

2018-07-13 18:32:31 UTC  

I’m not calling anyone out in that previous message just clarifying for y’all.

2018-07-13 18:32:38 UTC  

So then the Bible is not self-consistent?

2018-07-13 18:32:38 UTC  

2018-07-13 18:33:04 UTC  

I don’t know sar I’ve never read the Bible and took the time to check that.

2018-07-13 18:33:53 UTC  

If the Bible isn't self-consistent, how can one make any arguments based on the Bible that "intellect, knowledge, and judgment" are lies.

2018-07-13 18:35:09 UTC  

If Hake doesn't follow the Bible and PPF doesn't know whether the Bible is self-consistent, how is it possible to advance any opinion on doctrine

2018-07-13 18:35:33 UTC  

You would have to go back and argue whether the Bible is reliable, self-consistent, etc.

2018-07-13 18:36:11 UTC  

If we don't agree on what the color Red is we can't argue whether something is Red

2018-07-13 18:36:12 UTC  

Jesse asked a great question: Do you give spiritual advice? You can have all knowledge, but if you don't have love, you're not living it and you are nothing, not helping anyone. Like the people trying to cast out demons by imitating the apostles yet without the power. You'll just get eaten alive, and people can see through you. You're turning them off and don't know it.

2018-07-13 18:37:30 UTC  

It seems like your point of argument is based in your pride in your intellect of the Bible.

2018-07-13 18:38:00 UTC  

This isn't a life counseling chat, this is doctrinal discussion chat

2018-07-13 18:38:24 UTC  

It seems to you that way based on what?

2018-07-13 18:38:27 UTC  

Based on your intellect?

2018-07-13 18:38:39 UTC  

Based on what I see you doing

2018-07-13 18:38:41 UTC  

Haven't you agreed the heart is deceitful?

2018-07-13 18:38:52 UTC  

No

2018-07-13 18:39:19 UTC  

@Sar it is the mind that is deceitful

2018-07-13 18:39:24 UTC  

as far as i understand

2018-07-13 18:39:26 UTC  

Preaching the true gospel and countering the doctrine of demons does not make me feel good about myself

2018-07-13 18:39:33 UTC  

It is a chore and not appreciated by anyone

2018-07-13 18:39:47 UTC  

work in the service of the Lord is its own reward

2018-07-13 18:39:53 UTC  

as far as i understand it

2018-07-13 18:40:02 UTC  

It is work

2018-07-13 18:40:23 UTC  

I remember that Jesus said "they have their reward"

2018-07-13 18:40:41 UTC  

I think he was pointing out something similar. But you know I know nothing.

2018-07-13 18:40:46 UTC  

Did He say it is it's own reward?

2018-07-13 18:41:09 UTC  

No he meant that if you do work for a _reason_ then your reward comes for that reason alone

2018-07-13 18:41:17 UTC  

You can love your job.

2018-07-13 18:41:23 UTC  

Or work*

2018-07-13 18:42:02 UTC  

if you do work in order to get something, such as a thank you, or money, then thank you or money are the rewards

2018-07-13 18:42:13 UTC  

What He meant was that the hypocrites receive their reward in this world, borrowed against the next

2018-07-13 18:42:36 UTC  

Only taking a break will allow you to see yourself, stuff others see about you.

2018-07-13 18:42:54 UTC  

If a politician wants a photo op of praying in order to get votes, he gets those votes, but not necessarily more

2018-07-13 18:43:16 UTC  

"If the home is worthy, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town." This is the work.

2018-07-13 18:44:01 UTC  

Careful: A self-deceived person can tell himself the same.

2018-07-13 18:44:17 UTC  

If the admins tolerate me, they tolerate me. When they stop, I move on to some other group ruled over by some other admins.

2018-07-13 18:45:01 UTC  

do you feel stress or anxiety?

2018-07-13 18:45:36 UTC  

Do we have any street preachers here?