Message from @Szayel's Pooppion
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Does everyone recall how Jesse usually says something about not knowing how you will react when something happens unless it is actually happening? I’m asking this to ask a larger question as I’ve recently accepted Christianity. I’m wondering if being a true Christian is someone who will die for their faith? But if that’s true, that’s not in line with what jesse says about not knowing what you will do until the moment comes.
When you ask that question you’ve made an assumption about the future, which does not exist. Your statement about dying for your faith is a lie until the moment arrives and happens and then goes away. The devil has a funny way of making us think about what we will do if something were to happen. This breeds fear, anxiety, restlessness, anger, etc. it drives us to act under the influence of an illusion, and we feel “good” fooling ourselves that we will do something when we really don’t know.
It may seem ignorant for jesse to not know what he will do in a scenario but in reality it is a wise truth. He does not know until it happens.
I never said he was. I agree with him thinking that way because it is indeed not in the moment, making it an illusion. What I’m asking is how can I know I’m a Christian if I can’t know if I’d die for it?
As far as being a real Christian because you died for your faith, I don’t know about that, most Christians I know are LIVING examples not DEAD examples.
I wasn’t accusing you of thinking that, I was just generally explaining.
I had the same morals and values along with believing in god before pronouncing myself a Christian. What makes me different now? I just really am ignorant to how this goes as I wasn’t brought up in it due to my mothers mental illness & lack of resources growing up
There’s so many martyred saints too though..
To be honest I had an interaction with someone that made me feel I should question my new religious standing :(
There really isn’t much criteria to being a Christian I feel as though you’re overthinking it and trying to fit into a mold, I don’t believe that will work how you intend.
Believing in god, forgiving those who have wronged you, and not hating.
^thats pretty much the jist
I may be overthinking it due to someone questing my faith, but I’m deff not trying to fit into a mold bc I’ve never sought to fit in with others
Questioning*
I see
Why do other people have varying ideas on that then?
Perhaps you’re not tryin to fit into a mold, but it seems you’re looking for a image to model yourself after, or a checklist to follow.
Because they think, judge, and hate.
They listen to their thoughts instead of listening to god.
Yeah I started doubting myself bc of someone basically saying that my beliefs are pagan and not Christian because of the fact that I talked about god and had values resembling Christians before I called myself a Christian basically...
And that I am merely going off of my own code of honor, not from the Bible, bc I told them I didn’t come into my spirituality from the Bible
Sounds like they are butthurt, I wouldn’t take them seriously. They’re obviously influenced by some sort of resentment towards Christianity and directing at you.
They were Christian them self :/
They feel as though they have defeated god by challenging you and beating you in a “intellectual” argument
Is this about slate?
Why would you think that?
Just a hunch
Well I don’t believe in lying
You can dm me about it if you do t want to air your business out here
Dont*
Alright
christianity, paganism, and they were derrived from judaism if im not mistaken. follow god, think of jesus a role model, and stay good my friend.
Ty <:jesseamerifro:464176382453481511>
@TheSatireGames I also agree 💯 with the above thing you said about not thinking god uses words, since it’s the easiest to deceive with. Always remember his voice is a voiceless voice 🧡
Wordless* rather lol
@Stopvegans I wouldn’t dispute that much of the Bible is intact, jesses not saying the whole things corrupted.
Two of Jesses issues with the Bible appear in different translations such as when it says a person born of God does not “practice” sin. They put the word practice to make it vague meanwhile every other verse says go and sin no more.
He also says it’s wrong that you should “study” to show yourself approved — that study is not the right word, because people who study are nuts, basically. Other places it says to keep watch and pray, and warns against too much study and knowledge Vs love and humility. Life only requires a little bit of knowledge, just as it requires a little bit of faith.
@Hake thank you
how does it feel Jesse to have an imaginary friend ? do U think people who have that should be supported with meds?
@pio why are you so nasty lol
children of the lie xD
Pio is mentally ill folks don’t mind him. He blind and cannot see