Message from @Szayel's Pooppion

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2018-08-21 01:45:48 UTC  

Yes

2018-08-21 02:08:59 UTC  

Does everyone recall how Jesse usually says something about not knowing how you will react when something happens unless it is actually happening? I’m asking this to ask a larger question as I’ve recently accepted Christianity. I’m wondering if being a true Christian is someone who will die for their faith? But if that’s true, that’s not in line with what jesse says about not knowing what you will do until the moment comes.

2018-08-21 02:13:28 UTC  

When you ask that question you’ve made an assumption about the future, which does not exist. Your statement about dying for your faith is a lie until the moment arrives and happens and then goes away. The devil has a funny way of making us think about what we will do if something were to happen. This breeds fear, anxiety, restlessness, anger, etc. it drives us to act under the influence of an illusion, and we feel “good” fooling ourselves that we will do something when we really don’t know.

2018-08-21 02:14:55 UTC  

It may seem ignorant for jesse to not know what he will do in a scenario but in reality it is a wise truth. He does not know until it happens.

2018-08-21 02:16:06 UTC  

I never said he was. I agree with him thinking that way because it is indeed not in the moment, making it an illusion. What I’m asking is how can I know I’m a Christian if I can’t know if I’d die for it?

2018-08-21 02:16:43 UTC  

As far as being a real Christian because you died for your faith, I don’t know about that, most Christians I know are LIVING examples not DEAD examples.

2018-08-21 02:17:00 UTC  

I wasn’t accusing you of thinking that, I was just generally explaining.

2018-08-21 02:17:42 UTC  

I had the same morals and values along with believing in god before pronouncing myself a Christian. What makes me different now? I just really am ignorant to how this goes as I wasn’t brought up in it due to my mothers mental illness & lack of resources growing up

2018-08-21 02:19:09 UTC  

There’s so many martyred saints too though..

2018-08-21 02:19:59 UTC  

To be honest I had an interaction with someone that made me feel I should question my new religious standing :(

2018-08-21 02:20:19 UTC  

There really isn’t much criteria to being a Christian I feel as though you’re overthinking it and trying to fit into a mold, I don’t believe that will work how you intend.

2018-08-21 02:21:11 UTC  

Believing in god, forgiving those who have wronged you, and not hating.

2018-08-21 02:21:25 UTC  

^thats pretty much the jist

2018-08-21 02:21:31 UTC  

I may be overthinking it due to someone questing my faith, but I’m deff not trying to fit into a mold bc I’ve never sought to fit in with others

2018-08-21 02:21:43 UTC  

Questioning*

2018-08-21 02:22:11 UTC  

I see

2018-08-21 02:22:26 UTC  

Why do other people have varying ideas on that then?

2018-08-21 02:22:28 UTC  

Perhaps you’re not tryin to fit into a mold, but it seems you’re looking for a image to model yourself after, or a checklist to follow.

2018-08-21 02:22:40 UTC  

Because they think, judge, and hate.

2018-08-21 02:23:01 UTC  

They listen to their thoughts instead of listening to god.

2018-08-21 02:23:30 UTC  

Yeah I started doubting myself bc of someone basically saying that my beliefs are pagan and not Christian because of the fact that I talked about god and had values resembling Christians before I called myself a Christian basically...

2018-08-21 02:24:04 UTC  

And that I am merely going off of my own code of honor, not from the Bible, bc I told them I didn’t come into my spirituality from the Bible

2018-08-21 02:24:35 UTC  

Sounds like they are butthurt, I wouldn’t take them seriously. They’re obviously influenced by some sort of resentment towards Christianity and directing at you.

2018-08-21 02:25:02 UTC  

They were Christian them self :/

2018-08-21 02:25:12 UTC  

They feel as though they have defeated god by challenging you and beating you in a “intellectual” argument

2018-08-21 02:25:34 UTC  

Is this about slate?

2018-08-21 02:25:53 UTC  

Why would you think that?

2018-08-21 02:26:03 UTC  

Just a hunch

2018-08-21 02:26:37 UTC  

Well I don’t believe in lying

2018-08-21 02:27:16 UTC  

You can dm me about it if you do t want to air your business out here

2018-08-21 02:27:22 UTC  

Dont*

2018-08-21 02:27:52 UTC  

Alright

2018-08-21 02:45:22 UTC  

christianity, paganism, and they were derrived from judaism if im not mistaken. follow god, think of jesus a role model, and stay good my friend.

2018-08-21 02:59:35 UTC  

Ty <:jesseamerifro:464176382453481511>

2018-08-21 03:38:03 UTC  

@TheSatireGames I also agree 💯 with the above thing you said about not thinking god uses words, since it’s the easiest to deceive with. Always remember his voice is a voiceless voice 🧡

2018-08-21 03:38:31 UTC  

Wordless* rather lol

2018-08-22 05:24:35 UTC  

@Stopvegans I wouldn’t dispute that much of the Bible is intact, jesses not saying the whole things corrupted.

Two of Jesses issues with the Bible appear in different translations such as when it says a person born of God does not “practice” sin. They put the word practice to make it vague meanwhile every other verse says go and sin no more.

He also says it’s wrong that you should “study” to show yourself approved — that study is not the right word, because people who study are nuts, basically. Other places it says to keep watch and pray, and warns against too much study and knowledge Vs love and humility. Life only requires a little bit of knowledge, just as it requires a little bit of faith.

2018-08-22 12:07:40 UTC  

@Hake thank you

2018-08-22 17:17:58 UTC  

how does it feel Jesse to have an imaginary friend ? do U think people who have that should be supported with meds?

2018-08-22 17:55:30 UTC  

@pio why are you so nasty lol

2018-08-22 17:57:05 UTC  

children of the lie xD