Message from @Wizard_of_The_West

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2019-10-21 17:34:14 UTC  

At least it nor Portland yet

2019-10-21 17:34:59 UTC  

yeah, but they have yet another separate issue

2019-10-21 17:35:06 UTC  

open fighting

2019-10-21 18:00:57 UTC  

There's a Quasi-Civil Conflict

2019-10-21 18:03:26 UTC  

California is just shades away from becoming a socialist utopia. The ever increasing taxes are just redistribution without the express intent being advocated by the state.

2019-10-21 18:04:28 UTC  

At the local level it's different, but State Government is just a slow motion trainwreck

2019-10-21 18:05:55 UTC  

it's highly regulated and redistributive capitalism not socialism

2019-10-21 18:10:32 UTC  

What is socialism

2019-10-21 18:12:31 UTC  

hence like the shades away

2019-10-21 18:14:25 UTC  

Socialism has a market theory and a philosophical component, which a lot of people focus on the market theory because they don't like admitting their philosophy requires brutish and authoritarian tactics to implement.

2019-10-21 18:14:50 UTC  

socialism in its most broadest definition would be the collective ownership over the means of production

2019-10-21 18:15:54 UTC  

What ever it is I don't like it

2019-10-21 18:16:30 UTC  

I mean the wealth rediatabusion and regulations

2019-10-21 18:17:10 UTC  

Well wealth distribution isn't the goal it's just what happens when you take the means of production for the people .

2019-10-21 18:17:48 UTC  

Most people, reasonably, can't imagine a way to do this without the threat of force.

2019-10-21 18:17:59 UTC  

Then it is the goal. You’re taking wealth from some and giving to others.

2019-10-21 18:18:11 UTC  

You are giving it to everyone

2019-10-21 18:18:30 UTC  

Government enforced charity that what we can call it

2019-10-21 18:18:42 UTC  

the difference is is that redistribution implies that you're maintaining private ownership of property but just taking a portion of the surplus and distributing it to others

2019-10-21 18:18:47 UTC  

Mandatory govement enforced charity

2019-10-21 18:22:35 UTC  

Redistribution where 90% goes to the government and 10% goes to someone else but no one knows who.

2019-10-21 18:48:55 UTC  

Everyone not full blown commie is considered a Nazi by the left.

2019-10-21 18:50:53 UTC  

social democracy works when people have a cultural bond. It prevents resentment and people will hold each other accountable. On the flip side...social democracy can never work with 20 different cultures. Like in AMerica. White europeans pay for everyone else.

2019-10-21 19:07:30 UTC  

That's not Socialism @Wizard_of_The_West

2019-10-21 19:07:32 UTC  

Not even close.

2019-10-21 19:07:50 UTC  

The means of production are still in private hands..

2019-10-21 19:08:14 UTC  

They're not nationalising as many assets as they can..

2019-10-21 19:09:07 UTC  

Water and energy are still in private ownership...

2019-10-21 19:09:21 UTC  

What the fuck are you talking about, "California is just shades away from becoming a socialist utopia"

2019-10-21 19:09:49 UTC  

Argubly Europe is closer and they're still MILES away..

2019-10-21 19:39:54 UTC  

this is not good:

2019-10-21 19:40:14 UTC  

time to call your Congress critters

2019-10-21 22:16:45 UTC  

It's hilarious for College Commies to claim Socialism will be implemented peacefully yet shy away from questions like: "What if the farmers don't want to give up their land" or "How do you plan to handle industries that don't want to Nationalise"

2019-10-21 22:20:25 UTC  

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https://pluralist.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-bernie-sanders//49999

2019-10-21 22:27:03 UTC  

Can any of you delusional, possibly socialist Tulsi fans explain your fascination with this Progressive? https://www.tulsi2020.com/record

2019-10-21 22:30:13 UTC  

>milf
Did I do the explain good?

2019-10-21 22:50:41 UTC  

as an aspiring cougar-bait myself, I don't understand this.

2019-10-21 22:51:14 UTC  

Tulsi is not on my dick's radar

2019-10-21 22:51:22 UTC  

nor are any other politicians

2019-10-21 22:52:00 UTC  

not even Sarah Palin