Message from @Spooky Blobs

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2019-10-31 22:58:28 UTC  

IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING!

2019-10-31 22:58:40 UTC  

They're moving to Impeach the President!

2019-10-31 22:58:54 UTC  

Let's see how this utter shit show goes down.

2019-10-31 23:00:07 UTC  

My money's on Trump getting convicted of some small, irrelevant thing because the Dems control both house and Senate and they don't care about the evidence, they just want him gone.

2019-10-31 23:01:25 UTC  

Why am I so hyped for this?

2019-10-31 23:08:53 UTC  

My gut told me from before the 2016 election...

2019-10-31 23:09:19 UTC  

The only way this guy is going out is with a bullet in his head

2019-10-31 23:11:36 UTC  

Ya that's kinda both sad and true at the same time

2019-10-31 23:12:32 UTC  

Let's see if Carl's gonna keep hyping up the Orange man when the corrupt establishment finally get rid of him.

2019-10-31 23:16:25 UTC  

"when" <:trumpepe:588019356215279642>

2019-10-31 23:26:17 UTC  

*if, sorry

2019-10-31 23:26:27 UTC  

forgot nothing is certain @breadmoth

2019-10-31 23:26:46 UTC  

no fuck that shit , no debates

2019-10-31 23:27:04 UTC  

i hope whoever advocates this gets shot

2019-10-31 23:27:44 UTC  

Crucifixion would be more appropriate

2019-10-31 23:30:18 UTC  

that or radiation poisoning , i can't think of anything more painful

2019-10-31 23:31:44 UTC  

Crucifixion, nd dick nailing within a slightly radioactive area

2019-10-31 23:31:54 UTC  

Maximum pain

2019-10-31 23:35:00 UTC  

huh

2019-10-31 23:43:56 UTC  

Here's how Impeachment will work:
>Trump gets impeached, but charges are DOA in Senate.
>Trump gets re-elected in 2020 and gets the house back

2019-10-31 23:44:16 UTC  

Just in time for them to do nothing again just like in 2017/18

2019-11-01 00:09:23 UTC  

is there anything stopping an impeached president to go for re election?

2019-11-01 00:17:11 UTC  

if they are impeached but not removed there's basically no effect

2019-11-01 00:17:43 UTC  

they need to be convicted and removed by the senate to face any practical repercussions

2019-11-01 00:18:21 UTC  

while it's possible that the republicans may lose a few senate seats in 2020, they will likely retain control of the senate.

2019-11-01 00:18:36 UTC  

and conviction in an impeachment requires two-thirds

2019-11-01 00:19:12 UTC  

there would have to be massive underhanded shenanigans in order to get trump convicted

2019-11-01 00:20:22 UTC  

one thing to consider here is the exact wording in the constitution:

2019-11-01 00:20:25 UTC  

`The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present.`

2019-11-01 00:21:06 UTC  

there is possibility for shenanigans in the phrase 'members **present**'

2019-11-01 00:23:26 UTC  

if somehow the republicans lose control of the senate, even if the democrats don't have a super-majority they could conceivably perform some procedural shenanigans to hold the impeachment vote when a significant number of republicans aren't present.

2019-11-01 00:26:09 UTC  

in realistic terms though a senate conviction is extremely unlikely. it would take unprecedented subversion of the normal processes of government.

2019-11-01 01:17:16 UTC  

@pwdto

> it would take unprecedented subversion of the normal processes of government.

Well put. But I wouldn't be surprised.

2019-11-01 01:17:23 UTC  

>inb4 the Nuclear Option

2019-11-01 02:08:07 UTC  

so gonna repost my insane ranting from the news section here

2019-11-01 02:08:24 UTC  

For those who want it, this appears to be what the house resolution on impeachment is in full.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6393-read-the-resolution-on-impeach/fe29cf89a1170104436e/optimized/full.pdf#page=1
now the question is, according to lines 1-13 on page 4, it would appear the minority leader is entitled to depose any witness they would like and be present for such meetings (though that requires the good graces of the speaker of the house). what are the chances the republicans try to re-depose all the depositions that were done before this passed?

2019-11-01 02:08:44 UTC  

Also, I may be reading this wrong. but they seem to have given a 72 hour time limit for the republicans to submit written requests for any witnesses, starting today from the passing of this. (page 3 Lines 15-25)

I may be WAAAAAAAY over thinking this, and require someone who knows a bit more about the workings of the house and congress than i do. but the house does not meet again until the 12th of November, with no votes being held tomorrow. I may be reading this wrong or something, but it would appear that there will be no time within that 72 hour window for a written request for witnesses to be submitted. they could not be that blatant about it right? Like I must be misreading or misunderstanding something.

2019-11-01 02:09:28 UTC  

this vote appears to have been at 3pm. AKA the last vote of the day, on the last day of session for 2 week.

2019-11-01 02:13:15 UTC  

given that the democrats hold the house they can do any sort of procedural nonsense they want. virtually all of the 'rules' are just conventions, and at this stage of the game there's no need to maintain conventions.