Message from @Spooky Blobs
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IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING!
They're moving to Impeach the President!
Let's see how this utter shit show goes down.
My money's on Trump getting convicted of some small, irrelevant thing because the Dems control both house and Senate and they don't care about the evidence, they just want him gone.
Why am I so hyped for this?
My gut told me from before the 2016 election...
The only way this guy is going out is with a bullet in his head
Ya that's kinda both sad and true at the same time
Let's see if Carl's gonna keep hyping up the Orange man when the corrupt establishment finally get rid of him.
"when" <:trumpepe:588019356215279642>
*if, sorry
forgot nothing is certain @breadmoth
no fuck that shit , no debates
i hope whoever advocates this gets shot
Crucifixion would be more appropriate
that or radiation poisoning , i can't think of anything more painful
Crucifixion, nd dick nailing within a slightly radioactive area
Maximum pain
Here's how Impeachment will work:
>Trump gets impeached, but charges are DOA in Senate.
>Trump gets re-elected in 2020 and gets the house back
Just in time for them to do nothing again just like in 2017/18
is there anything stopping an impeached president to go for re election?
if they are impeached but not removed there's basically no effect
they need to be convicted and removed by the senate to face any practical repercussions
while it's possible that the republicans may lose a few senate seats in 2020, they will likely retain control of the senate.
and conviction in an impeachment requires two-thirds
there would have to be massive underhanded shenanigans in order to get trump convicted
one thing to consider here is the exact wording in the constitution:
`The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present.`
there is possibility for shenanigans in the phrase 'members **present**'
if somehow the republicans lose control of the senate, even if the democrats don't have a super-majority they could conceivably perform some procedural shenanigans to hold the impeachment vote when a significant number of republicans aren't present.
in realistic terms though a senate conviction is extremely unlikely. it would take unprecedented subversion of the normal processes of government.
@pwdto
> it would take unprecedented subversion of the normal processes of government.
Well put. But I wouldn't be surprised.
>inb4 the Nuclear Option
so gonna repost my insane ranting from the news section here
For those who want it, this appears to be what the house resolution on impeachment is in full.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6393-read-the-resolution-on-impeach/fe29cf89a1170104436e/optimized/full.pdf#page=1
now the question is, according to lines 1-13 on page 4, it would appear the minority leader is entitled to depose any witness they would like and be present for such meetings (though that requires the good graces of the speaker of the house). what are the chances the republicans try to re-depose all the depositions that were done before this passed?
Also, I may be reading this wrong. but they seem to have given a 72 hour time limit for the republicans to submit written requests for any witnesses, starting today from the passing of this. (page 3 Lines 15-25)
I may be WAAAAAAAY over thinking this, and require someone who knows a bit more about the workings of the house and congress than i do. but the house does not meet again until the 12th of November, with no votes being held tomorrow. I may be reading this wrong or something, but it would appear that there will be no time within that 72 hour window for a written request for witnesses to be submitted. they could not be that blatant about it right? Like I must be misreading or misunderstanding something.
this vote appears to have been at 3pm. AKA the last vote of the day, on the last day of session for 2 week.
given that the democrats hold the house they can do any sort of procedural nonsense they want. virtually all of the 'rules' are just conventions, and at this stage of the game there's no need to maintain conventions.