THAT, is a better option

Yeah, he has nothing in his life to do but argue about random shit online such as "illegal immigrants are bad"

Weez is apparently worse than a statist. He's a corporatist.

not really. aid has not really worked in the decades we tried it. stopping immigration from those countries so the hard working individuals that will make the system better are more likely to stay is a better option. stop brain draining the third world, lower visa programs, and immigration rates, and let them sort their own problems out without interference.

He's a communist. Every solution to every problem eventually boils down to "why not invest in other countries"

Small brain.

It depends on the way that you implement that aid. If you just throw money at them, then it's not going to work. But if you go down there, build roads, schools and start up industry there, then that will work @Shai'tan

Stopping immigration from their countries would also be a good method while they're under development

I'll agree with that

> and let them sort their own problems out without interference.
The problem with that is, they won't fix them any time soon, which is why you need to go down there and get it sorted nice and quick.

Why not just shoot illegals in the head in front of their families if they try to cross the border, and watch them flee like cockroaches? They won't come back.

You can't just build shit for them, though. You have to get them to learn how to build it themselves.

we did that in Africa in the early 20th century. in every country the first world built infrastructure it is almost all gone or rotted away after we left.

You did that in Europe after WW2 @Shai'tan

Look at Europe now.

Get them invested in seeing it through, otherwise they'll just let it deteriorate.

It's a shithole.

But Europe actually has cultures, and the people tend to be industrious.

I agree to an extent. But obviously those high skilled positions which haven't been filled will need to be @Goodwood of Dank™

Such as, engineers, etc, etc

those countries had that infrastructure in the first place

Get them to home-grow their engineers. Set up schools and universities to help them learn for themselves.

Imagine being an EU country that's still in debt, taxes half of your people's income, and doesn't even pay their own share in NATO.

Which was bombed out of existence during WW2 @Shai'tan

Right, or you could ensure they succeed by sending people down there, to teach them

Yes, Europe has gone to shit. I blame the neo-liberals who treat the EU as some sort of utopia.

yes but they still had it, thust they had people who knew how to take care of it, was was required to use it and had built it up themselves in the firstplace.

If you setup business there, you train the people in that area, you provide them with work and you make money off it

I somewhat agree with you @Shai'tan

Comparing Europe to Africa is comparing apples to pineapples.

what you are talking about now would require massive long term investment over decades and the need to train several generations of people. it would cost more than anyone would be willing to spend and involve a massive presence in the rest of the world that would rival whatever local government. what you are talking about, is an Empire

Or apples to mud cakes...

Yep.

Also, the British Empire did precisely this, and got called horrible.

I disagree, it's not going to cost an obscene amount of money, nor will it take multiple generations

The. British. Empire. Already. Did. This.

https://www.westernjournal.com/delusional-michelle-obama-says-people-across-world-feel-barack-president/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2019-11-04&utm_campaign=manualpost

you need at least two generations one that is fully trained and is able to teach, and the generation that is being taught. Ideality you would have three so even the ones teaching can have people long experienced in the field to call on. you also require a massive shilt in culture within the country

The Obamas are a special breed of delusional shitbag

You train the one generation and provide them the tools for sucess (The investment) and you don't need to do much else as generally as we've seen historically that succeeds

If you want to remain there for more than one generation, keep building, building, building and increasing control then that country would become a sattelite state