But I guess big scaaaary guns

I'd rather defend my home with a firearm than a bat, thanks

Against what

need to unfuck the populace first tbh.

You'd be locked up for using it

Intruders

Unless you were shooting someone else with a gun

Lmao that's why you change the laws to allow people to use a firearm in self defence

Good luck getting self defensr laws

You'd need to get them to allow disproportionate defence

It's something that needs to be pushed as it is

Does it really though

Yes

Like the Americans have this wrong, don't think burglary makes your life void

If they can get out, they're safe <:smugon:512048583806025739>

'defence'

In the house, they're a danger to more than one life. So, tata negro

Also, you can most certainly use a proportional defence law with firearms.

Maine has one and its effective

I.e you can't shoot a man in the back

If the man is on your property but not in your house, you may not use deadly force

I don’t like the idea of our knife crime epidemic to become a gun crime epidemic.
We will have to get that out of the way first

You can't set your dogs on an intrudor either

Yeah, but it won't

It's a violent crime issue, not a tool issue

And it's an issue with incompatible cultures and gangs

Guns can be tracked via their serial numbers, and you can work out from the ballistic damage what kind of gun was used, how close it was used and finding the suspect, linking them to the firearm isn't difficult either. Hence why gangs in the US use illegally acquired firearms.

Said guns are often stolen or smuggled across the border from Mexico. As we don't have a land border to smuggle across, it'll be far harder to get your hands on illegal guns. Not to say it isn't possible as we have seen, but it's not as easy as the US.

On top of this, areas in the US with the highest population of gun owners are the safest to be. Its mainly the inner cities with strict gun regulations that have the high crime rates, much like here but with knives.

To be fair both parties are putting shit into their manifestos with no costing

And the conservatives have tripled borrowing

So I don’t think “where is the money coming from” is a valid criticism of labour anymore

Yes it is, you disingenuous faggot

just build a walk around london and let the rest of the country be free

You want a wall around the best part of the UK economy?

Sounds good to me, keep the brexiteers from visiting during the football and making a mess

Won't be the best part of the economy with the boost to the North that Tories are going to be working on

And a curb to immigration will help the job market boom up north too <:smugon:512048583806025739>

Priti Patel is my spirit animal tbh

Tfw the tories are going to be putting more effort into the neglected North than Labour

No wonder they're fucked here