Lmao

the punchline is that people still ask the gov to build services for them <:mutt:462285123421732874>

First we crush Labour, then we crush Libdems, after that we introduce guns to the UK again and we shall be freeeeee

The UK doesn't need guns

Yes it does.

Would rather not copy the Americans with that regard

How would it? We'd impliment it differently

Along with the fact we'd do a far better job at vetting potential gun owners.

There is a lot more that needs to be fixed

You'd still end up with unintended consequences

The UK really doesnt need widespread gun ownership

Freedom comes with a price. Freedom has inherent danger along with it.

You don't need guns though

But I guess big scaaaary guns

I'd rather defend my home with a firearm than a bat, thanks

Against what

need to unfuck the populace first tbh.

You'd be locked up for using it

Intruders

Unless you were shooting someone else with a gun

Lmao that's why you change the laws to allow people to use a firearm in self defence

Good luck getting self defensr laws

You'd need to get them to allow disproportionate defence

It's something that needs to be pushed as it is

Does it really though

Yes

Like the Americans have this wrong, don't think burglary makes your life void

If they can get out, they're safe <:smugon:512048583806025739>

'defence'

In the house, they're a danger to more than one life. So, tata negro

Also, you can most certainly use a proportional defence law with firearms.

Maine has one and its effective

I.e you can't shoot a man in the back

If the man is on your property but not in your house, you may not use deadly force

I don’t like the idea of our knife crime epidemic to become a gun crime epidemic.
We will have to get that out of the way first

You can't set your dogs on an intrudor either

Yeah, but it won't

It's a violent crime issue, not a tool issue

And it's an issue with incompatible cultures and gangs

Guns can be tracked via their serial numbers, and you can work out from the ballistic damage what kind of gun was used, how close it was used and finding the suspect, linking them to the firearm isn't difficult either. Hence why gangs in the US use illegally acquired firearms.

Said guns are often stolen or smuggled across the border from Mexico. As we don't have a land border to smuggle across, it'll be far harder to get your hands on illegal guns. Not to say it isn't possible as we have seen, but it's not as easy as the US.