Message from @PureEvilPie

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2019-11-15 10:53:56 UTC  

That didn't actually address my point. The creation of a turbine has a giant carbon footprint.

2019-11-15 10:54:39 UTC  

I suppose, like electric cars, because people ignore the construction impact it appears cleaner

2019-11-15 10:55:34 UTC  

That only matters if you care about children in Kongo 🙂

2019-11-15 10:56:17 UTC  

Oh yeah, fuck those guys - go go carbon offset!!! 😀

2019-11-15 11:01:46 UTC  

A coal mine and it’s equipment also had a carbon footprint in its construction

2019-11-15 11:01:59 UTC  

But the end product also has a negative impact on the environment

2019-11-15 11:02:07 UTC  

Wind turbines do have a footprint in construction

2019-11-15 11:02:13 UTC  

But at least the end product is cleaner

2019-11-15 11:02:32 UTC  

The end product is cleaner only if it's at sea and out of way of migratory birds

2019-11-15 11:02:44 UTC  

Lmao this argument

2019-11-15 11:03:00 UTC  

Which isn't an issue for UK

2019-11-15 11:03:31 UTC  

But for some countries finding a sea to build them is kinda problematic.

2019-11-15 11:03:55 UTC  

Yea

2019-11-15 11:04:08 UTC  

But we are a fantastic source of wind and tidal energy

2019-11-15 11:04:14 UTC  

Some of those have hydro instead, like the Swiss

2019-11-15 11:04:17 UTC  

Seems silly to pay other countries to import their gas

2019-11-15 11:04:18 UTC  

but some can't have either

2019-11-15 11:04:24 UTC  

When we could rely on our own resources

2019-11-15 11:04:39 UTC  

Also coal is clearly on the way out

2019-11-15 11:04:46 UTC  

Better to be a market leader in new tech

2019-11-15 11:04:55 UTC  

We were market leading in tidal technology

2019-11-15 11:05:00 UTC  

But we stopped investing

2019-11-15 11:05:35 UTC  

The only argument for fossil fuels is that they pay a lot of money to lobby politicians lmao

2019-11-15 11:05:44 UTC  

So I understand why politicians want to keep them

2019-11-15 11:05:52 UTC  

But everyone else? It’s pretty dumb

2019-11-15 11:05:54 UTC  

I'm not against wind if it's done right. But when the whole country is littered by them, I really am not a fan of that.

2019-11-15 11:06:12 UTC  

Well we can have a mix of solar roof

2019-11-15 11:06:17 UTC  

Offshore onshore wind

2019-11-15 11:06:19 UTC  

And tidal

2019-11-15 11:06:38 UTC  

Tidal power alone if we utilised it in the UK I think can power almost half of our energy needs?

2019-11-15 11:06:52 UTC  

And we can sell our tidal products and tech

2019-11-15 11:06:58 UTC  

To other countries

2019-11-15 11:07:00 UTC  

How stable is that as an energy source?

2019-11-15 11:07:02 UTC  

We used to do this shit

2019-11-15 11:07:14 UTC  

Not sure honestly

2019-11-15 11:07:14 UTC  

Wouldn't you need gigantic battery farms or other shit?

2019-11-15 11:07:22 UTC  

I’ll have to look that one up

2019-11-15 11:07:29 UTC  

But yea battery is the main problem

2019-11-15 11:07:37 UTC  

Battery tech hasn’t kept pace