I very much doubt its cheaper tbh

unless by cheaper they mean theres enough gov subsidies...

cos they always have one of those machines out there fixing them

Way more cleanly than they used to.

But compared to other sources nowadays, I very much doubt that.

Either way, e.g. China doesn't give a fuck about running them cleanly.

That didn't actually address my point. The creation of a turbine has a giant carbon footprint.

I suppose, like electric cars, because people ignore the construction impact it appears cleaner

That only matters if you care about children in Kongo 🙂

Oh yeah, fuck those guys - go go carbon offset!!! 😀

A coal mine and it’s equipment also had a carbon footprint in its construction

But the end product also has a negative impact on the environment

Wind turbines do have a footprint in construction

But at least the end product is cleaner

The end product is cleaner only if it's at sea and out of way of migratory birds

Lmao this argument

Which isn't an issue for UK

But for some countries finding a sea to build them is kinda problematic.

Yea

But we are a fantastic source of wind and tidal energy

Some of those have hydro instead, like the Swiss

Seems silly to pay other countries to import their gas

but some can't have either

When we could rely on our own resources

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/mar/25/coal-more-expensive-wind-solar-us-energy-study

Also coal is clearly on the way out

Better to be a market leader in new tech

We were market leading in tidal technology

But we stopped investing

The only argument for fossil fuels is that they pay a lot of money to lobby politicians lmao

So I understand why politicians want to keep them

But everyone else? It’s pretty dumb

I'm not against wind if it's done right. But when the whole country is littered by them, I really am not a fan of that.

Well we can have a mix of solar roof

Offshore onshore wind

And tidal

Tidal power alone if we utilised it in the UK I think can power almost half of our energy needs?

And we can sell our tidal products and tech

To other countries

How stable is that as an energy source?

We used to do this shit