The daughter is spoiled

That's my take

What do you think

@Stopvegans She reminds me of me.

My father abandoned me at the age of 2. I never got pregnant or anything but a father should be there for his daughter to build up her foundation. Teach her to be aware of men.

Did he abandon her? From what he said it sounds like he was there.

But i skipped some of it

But yes fathers should teach daughters about men who want to use them

I learned in church thank God

https://youtu.be/hISz8zqkv-8

This guy gave this great story to me

@Stopvegans No he abandoned her.

Oh ok

When I was a teen, they taught me in church don't have sex before marriage

This one guy said you are a rose

Every time you do something further with a man you take a petal

He said after doing further and further that rose is what you give your husband

It stuck with me

Well, if that is the case, if so many petals are taken off, you can't grow them back.

I still went too far when i was dating

I let guys go too far

So you are now an incomplete rose for your future husband.

Well I'm not sure how true it is

But its a good way to make teens practice abstinence

Worked on me

I feel like your situation is different from the girls. Her dad was more present than yours was.

Did your mom run off your Dad

I grew up in a baptist church but didn't learn that.

My father only came to visit me ONCE. During that visit, he said to me, "I'm not your father, I am just your friend, okay? I am not your daddy." She told him to leave. She did everything she could. He treated her like crap.

He was an older married man where even his sons tried to mess with her.

She never talked about him to me or said anything bad about him.

I tried finding your call that day but I only found it in the description on the video. I looked forva while but gave up when i couldn't find it.

Let me see if I can find it.

He's 80, right?

I think its in the middle but i still couldn't find it

Have you gone & forgiven him yet

@Stopvegans that rose stuff is beautiful 💜

@Deleted User I feel for you. My father is more a stranger than anything. In the case with him, *some* of it may have been what Jesse says, that he couldn’t stand my mom... but at the same time, my mom always encouraged him to come see me growing up, she never tried to keep me away yet he always chose not to. Meanwhile he was with a new woman since I was 2 and was taking care of her sons and being a father to them. It doesn’t make any sense

amazing

I have to fly to Iowa to forgive my mother - haven't seen her since I was 6 years old - although I saw her once when I was 18 but it was very brief

@Szayel's Pooppion It does but it happens. Like Jesse says, these men are in a fallen state. He still hasn't contacted me back so I will have to make sure I have the right phone number and call him one last time.