but someone ALWAYS pays if you take more than you put back

but the problem exists that someone could have seen them

well, that is semantics

and so to prevent it happening again

You could also argue that public property has that as a rule in the same way you could have that as a rule on your private property

they get arrested

a 'crime' requires a conviction less it is just an 'allegation'

so in that sense, it follows... if a tree falls in the forest...

Yeah basically

Just don't get caught lol

alot of people don't like that interpretation

or just don't understand it

odds are, many of us have commited small infractions of the law and may not have even known it

yep. because of the buricratic nature of the legal system.

well

vehicular laws

J walking isn't a crime tbh

everyone violates

yup

j walking isnt something anyone is gonna arrest you for tho

Also Luci is right everyone has broke the road rules at some point

more than that, there are hundreds of laws still on the books people violate every day

unless you do it in the middle of a busy city street

like the blue laws for example

not just that but there are laws that exist on the book from the founding of your country. because they dont ever expire, they just nolonger get enforced.

illegal to drink on a sunday in someplaces

exactly @Shai'tan

thank you JANET

very educational

problem is, those like luci tend to think in absolutes

as if life were only a set of rules

I do think it is a problem that there are laws on the books that aren't being followed

They should be followed or removed because otherwise we might end up with something real important being ignored in that manner

selective enforcement is the way those in the know manipulate the plebes

as long as you don't piss the wrong person off, then you are good

i have always been the type to argue that for a law to be passed it must have a justification for its own existence attached. and a time limit for it to expire. so you have to pass the same law every few decades, and if its justification no longer makes sense. the law can pass out of the books with no effort.

See Count Dankula being fucked by the courts for details

Well, try working in gov sometime

I like that idea also Shai but I can see where you could run into problems with that

everyone passes more and more laws