let me be clear. there should be no charge without a crime first, and no crive without victim.

so again, i can't see such a law being applicable today

This is the argument I am trying to facilitate Shai

probably some archaic law still on the books

there is no "you call for that person to be killed" without atleast an attempt on a persons live

mmm

no crime without a victim?

what about public nudity them

I swear officer brother, she gave consent h'yuk. You know her better than anyone, she's yer muther

Is there no crime with no victim? and I'm playing devils advocate for the other side

well, i don't think i can go as far as saying 'no crime without a victim'

Also Luci the people who see the public nudity are the victims

that is how communist ideas get started

Like if no one sees it how does he get reported

you might not SEE the victim

yes. there is no crime without a vicim. no matter what the current bissar legal frame work we are in

what if they do things in the nude

but

Not a crime if you aren't caught

its on camera

but someone ALWAYS pays if you take more than you put back

but the problem exists that someone could have seen them

well, that is semantics

and so to prevent it happening again

You could also argue that public property has that as a rule in the same way you could have that as a rule on your private property

they get arrested

a 'crime' requires a conviction less it is just an 'allegation'

so in that sense, it follows... if a tree falls in the forest...

Yeah basically

Just don't get caught lol

alot of people don't like that interpretation

or just don't understand it

odds are, many of us have commited small infractions of the law and may not have even known it

yep. because of the buricratic nature of the legal system.

well

vehicular laws

J walking isn't a crime tbh

everyone violates

yup

j walking isnt something anyone is gonna arrest you for tho