well, i don't think i can go as far as saying 'no crime without a victim'

Also Luci the people who see the public nudity are the victims

that is how communist ideas get started

Like if no one sees it how does he get reported

you might not SEE the victim

yes. there is no crime without a vicim. no matter what the current bissar legal frame work we are in

what if they do things in the nude

but

Not a crime if you aren't caught

its on camera

but someone ALWAYS pays if you take more than you put back

but the problem exists that someone could have seen them

well, that is semantics

and so to prevent it happening again

You could also argue that public property has that as a rule in the same way you could have that as a rule on your private property

they get arrested

a 'crime' requires a conviction less it is just an 'allegation'

so in that sense, it follows... if a tree falls in the forest...

Yeah basically

Just don't get caught lol

alot of people don't like that interpretation

or just don't understand it

odds are, many of us have commited small infractions of the law and may not have even known it

yep. because of the buricratic nature of the legal system.

well

vehicular laws

J walking isn't a crime tbh

everyone violates

yup

j walking isnt something anyone is gonna arrest you for tho

Also Luci is right everyone has broke the road rules at some point

more than that, there are hundreds of laws still on the books people violate every day

unless you do it in the middle of a busy city street

like the blue laws for example

not just that but there are laws that exist on the book from the founding of your country. because they dont ever expire, they just nolonger get enforced.

illegal to drink on a sunday in someplaces

exactly @Shai'tan

thank you JANET

very educational

problem is, those like luci tend to think in absolutes