Message from @kennith

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2019-10-16 18:10:11 UTC  

Literally Satan to the rest of the Anglo sphere

2019-10-16 18:10:36 UTC  

(they just don't think of us like that because of all the moose and igloos)

2019-10-16 18:10:47 UTC  

🤣

2019-10-16 18:11:44 UTC  

Canadian stereotype jokes are the best, I always get a laugh out of them.

2019-10-16 18:12:09 UTC  

i think most people get a laugh out of their stereotypes... just not leftists 😛

2019-10-16 18:12:36 UTC  

... tell me aboot it eh?

2019-10-16 18:13:40 UTC  

I've got some moose on the fire, the igloo is warm and my toque is dry. So i'm ready to listen to what you have to say. I even have some maple syrup on ice, oh shoot sorry, I should have asked, did you want some?

2019-10-16 18:13:55 UTC  

🤣

2019-10-16 18:15:12 UTC  

Canadians, the second you give them a moment to talk politics, the gripe, then devolve rapidly into polite small talk and Canadian Stereotype jokes.

2019-10-16 18:15:44 UTC  

haha, or they have very strong opinions ..strong enough to write a letter.

2019-10-16 18:17:17 UTC  

I think the damaging thing to the PPC, is the climate change point. If they defer the responsibility to provinces, they should do just that. Max sticking to his (accurate) talking point of how there is no climate crisis was... a mistake IMO.

2019-10-16 18:18:07 UTC  

Arguing against *them* that they're wrong is not effective.

2019-10-16 18:21:15 UTC  

the issue is more how the crowd reads it, and in Canada that's gonna be poorly. He is right that "the end of the world" is not coming in the next 12 years or whatever it is this time. not to mention of Canada produced 0 Greenhouse gasses (not even net 0 just none at all) that's just a global decrease of 3% you know who make up ~60% of all greenhouse gas emictions? China, the US and India. 3 countries we have absolutely 0 control over

2019-10-16 18:21:26 UTC  

I mean, the us system was not designed to be nearly as centralized or democratic as it is now

2019-10-16 18:22:01 UTC  

what are we supposed to do exactly on this issue?

2019-10-16 18:22:04 UTC  

it was designed to be as decentralized as possible, but that slowly erroded over time

2019-10-16 18:22:22 UTC  

well, the 12 year thing is bullshit

2019-10-16 18:22:35 UTC  

polarized too, it was never intended to be a 2 party system either.

2019-10-16 18:22:40 UTC  

so is most of the hysteria regarding climate change

2019-10-16 18:22:58 UTC  

actualy if you read the anti federalist papers the two party thing was predicted

2019-10-16 18:23:20 UTC  

predictable, certainly. but not by design.

2019-10-16 18:23:30 UTC  

and most people who were litterate read both the sets of papers at the time (you would be supprised how good the litteracy rate was in the usa at the time to)

2019-10-16 18:23:33 UTC  

its inevitable

2019-10-16 18:23:41 UTC  

Yes, however much of that happened in the last 70 years. with the biggest increase happening after the assassination of JFK, and contueing into the Obama era

2019-10-16 18:23:49 UTC  

unless you go for proportional representation

2019-10-16 18:23:59 UTC  

(in the centralization of power)

2019-10-16 18:24:00 UTC  

which is WAYYY more centralized than first past the post

2019-10-16 18:24:22 UTC  

id say the biggest increase was either wilson or fdr

2019-10-16 18:24:45 UTC  

both of them were big government proponents that got extra leeway due to a war/depression+war

2019-10-16 18:24:51 UTC  

I was a fan of STV system.. where if your first choice wasn't chosen, you'd get a second vote for a backup choice.

2019-10-16 18:25:31 UTC  

fdr of course made most of the social programs that eat up half our budget (the rest are from lbj), and the cia

2019-10-16 18:26:03 UTC  

wilson made the income tax an amendment and pressured the court to allow male drafting without voting

2019-10-16 18:27:09 UTC  

jfk/lbj are a good third place though ill admit

2019-10-16 18:27:42 UTC  

Preferential voting would be really bad imo @kennith. It would basically just mean a permanent Liberal Party dictatorship, because all CPC voters would put them Libs over NDP and all NDP voters would be Libs over Cons.

2019-10-16 18:27:57 UTC  

And that system can actually make it harder for small parties

2019-10-16 18:27:58 UTC  

I do agree wit that assessment.

2019-10-16 18:28:25 UTC  

Like in France the National Front gets almost no seats even with 20-30% of the public supporting them

2019-10-16 18:28:32 UTC  

because most people dislike them

2019-10-16 18:28:39 UTC  

fptp is less powerful and less damaging when only house members are directly elected

2019-10-16 18:28:42 UTC  

FPTP appears unfair, but I think it may be.. the most fair.

2019-10-16 18:29:04 UTC  

its the least unfair