Message from @Mooncrest

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2019-09-30 19:11:26 UTC  

There isnt actually any science to support non animal protien diets, or the idea that red meat is bad for you

2019-09-30 19:11:38 UTC  

Most of it is based on vastly outdated science

2019-09-30 19:18:15 UTC  

@Tiberius That's a very bold claim.

2019-09-30 19:18:17 UTC  

The very existence of the lion diet is proof that they're wrong

2019-09-30 19:18:45 UTC  

Didn't jordan peterson just check into rehab? >.>

2019-09-30 19:19:03 UTC  

I respect the guy, but his voice is all raspy now like shawn baker and he sounds like death

2019-09-30 19:19:33 UTC  

For a physical addiction, not a mental one. He just needs a controlled environment for the withdrawals

2019-09-30 19:19:55 UTC  

Yes but supposedly his all-meat diet "cured" his depression

2019-09-30 19:19:58 UTC  

I guess not..

2019-09-30 19:20:07 UTC  

His wife got cancer

2019-09-30 19:20:13 UTC  

Added stress

2019-09-30 19:20:34 UTC  

It was anti anxiety, not anti depressant

2019-09-30 19:20:51 UTC  

So the guy who preaches manning up to problems goes on a drug binge because of a stressful life event? 🤔

2019-09-30 19:21:05 UTC  

It wasn't a binge

2019-09-30 19:21:23 UTC  

Also, science doesn't really become outdated. As long as the methidology is sound, the data remains valid.

2019-09-30 19:21:40 UTC  

It was a prescription, which he tried to go off of when the stress was gone and had a huge withdrawal reaction

2019-09-30 19:22:05 UTC  

You're missing my point

2019-09-30 19:22:20 UTC  

So to avoid stressing his wife, he went to rehab to get over the worst of it

2019-09-30 19:22:48 UTC  

Also, two anecdotes doesn't invalidate decades of plant-based nutrition research..

2019-09-30 19:23:15 UTC  

It invalidates the claim of red meat being bad for you

2019-09-30 19:23:35 UTC  

You honestly think there's no evidence that saturated fat is bad for people despite almost a century of research claiming otherwise? Refined carbs being bad doesn't make sat fats automatically good. They can both be bad.

2019-09-30 19:23:52 UTC  

Saturated fat≠red meat

2019-09-30 19:24:24 UTC  

Goalpost is over here dude

2019-09-30 19:25:16 UTC  

Red meat contains saturated fat..

2019-09-30 19:25:26 UTC  

In relevant quantities

2019-09-30 19:25:39 UTC  

thus, you eat red meat you eat saturated fat

2019-09-30 19:25:53 UTC  

its related to our discussion, not goalpast shifting..

2019-09-30 19:26:33 UTC  

Plus I assume that's what you're going to do is just deny sat fat and cholesterol have any negative effects.

2019-09-30 19:26:35 UTC  

Red meat is red meat, eating fatty cuts is a separate decision

2019-09-30 19:26:53 UTC  

even lean cuts contain saturated fat.. 😒

2019-09-30 19:27:25 UTC  

Which are dangerous in high amounts, but still needed in a diet

2019-09-30 19:27:31 UTC  

And saturated fat is a dietary necessity

2019-09-30 19:27:37 UTC  

^

2019-09-30 19:27:42 UTC  

lmfao no its absolutely not LOL

2019-09-30 19:27:52 UTC  

Because the liver cannot create whole cholesterol on its own nor full amino acid profiles

2019-09-30 19:27:53 UTC  

there is no dietary requirement for saturated fat.

2019-09-30 19:27:55 UTC  

Yes it is lol

2019-09-30 19:27:59 UTC  

No its not...

2019-09-30 19:28:05 UTC  

Yes, it is

2019-09-30 19:28:05 UTC  

Yes it is lol

2019-09-30 19:28:21 UTC  

Science doesnt become outdated