Message from @Imaorange

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2019-10-11 03:25:02 UTC  

My parents' power turned back on about an hour and a half from this post, so perhaps they aren't going to keep everyone out of power as long as projected after they realized the shitstorm they already got themselves into

2019-10-11 03:29:17 UTC  

so its not directly because of wind conditions, then?

2019-10-11 03:33:46 UTC  

Well wind can knock down power lines and that can start fires. But I'd point out that 90% of tornados for like, the whole fucking planet, happen in the Midwest. And there are forests here too. Yet we manage not to burn ourselves up on a regular basis and do not require rolling blackouts to accomplish that feat.

2019-10-11 03:34:40 UTC  

TL;DR wind is real but the primary problem is Californians are idiots.

2019-10-11 03:35:20 UTC  

I mean, knocking down power lines can do enough damage by itself

2019-10-11 03:36:30 UTC  

though I don't know why the word 'surge' was about to come to my head, seeing that its a cessation of power, not a rpid influx

2019-10-11 03:37:18 UTC  

Ok but have you seen a tornado? One threw a tree through our living room when I was 6. I assure you they knock over power lines and buildings and all kinds of shit.

2019-10-11 03:38:58 UTC  

yeah I'm aware. Oregon had winds that uprooted fucking 3-story trees in my neighborhood

2019-10-11 03:39:19 UTC  

my point is, is the power company being cunts, or are they reasonable in their blackouts?

2019-10-11 03:40:36 UTC  

It is likely reasonable for CA because they do not do forestry management for shit. Which is to say wind is not the real problem.

2019-10-11 03:40:53 UTC  

fair enough

2019-10-11 03:41:41 UTC  

The issue was

2019-10-11 03:42:06 UTC  

Regardless on if you think anything is a conspiracy for greater acts, which I won't get into because they're more out there for regular folks

2019-10-11 03:42:44 UTC  

The time in which California was not doing protective deforestation was also conveniently the same chunk of years, around 4~5, that the state was experiencing a very high level of drought.

2019-10-11 03:43:06 UTC  

Coupled with bad weather, assuming weather was the cause and not a guise, triggered a fire after powerlines went down.

2019-10-11 03:43:26 UTC  

So there was absolutely tons of dry fuel and bark-beetle infested tree corpses to burn

2019-10-11 03:43:53 UTC  

That, and a load of Eucalyptus trees had been gifted nearly a century ago from Australia

2019-10-11 03:44:17 UTC  

And guess how flammable Eucalyptus oil is (they don't even allow its use in saunas)

2019-10-11 03:47:37 UTC  

While I am sure those are factors I do not think you comprehend how insane CA 'environmental' regulations are or the negative impacts of them. Look on the back of a can of WD-40. It is restricted in CA. You cannot use 140 flash mineral spirits in the whole state as a degreaser. This sort of Luddite mania carries over into their forest management making it public policy to turn their forests into active tinder boxes.

2019-10-11 03:48:15 UTC  

Nigger I just said that and I say it as a lifelong California resident

2019-10-11 03:48:33 UTC  

Protective Deforestation is merely one aspect of their monumental environmentalism failures

2019-10-11 03:49:00 UTC  

I was merely highlighting specifics behind the Butte Fire and to a lesser extent the Paradise Fire

2019-10-11 03:49:19 UTC  

Among other known fires in that time frame

2019-10-11 03:54:25 UTC  

Oh I'm sorry I did not realize you were from CA. I will speak slowly and use pictures where possible.....

2019-10-11 04:00:05 UTC  

how the fuck are you two arguing toward the same purpose yet still disagreeing?

2019-10-11 04:00:29 UTC  

or think you are

2019-10-11 04:01:38 UTC  

My surface level analysis is that I was relatively civil before he called me nigger.......

2019-10-11 04:04:03 UTC  

At which point I felt it only honorable to comment on his degenerate heritage as a Californian......

2019-10-11 04:05:11 UTC  

Dad left Cali for Oregon and immediately went to the beach

2019-10-11 04:05:19 UTC  

he didn't like Oregon very much after that

2019-10-11 04:09:36 UTC  

I probably missed the earlier conversation, but lmao why is CA cutting power to people? Is CA entering the 'Electricity allowance' era of Socialism?

2019-10-11 04:10:57 UTC  

apparently it all relates back to fire prevention because of their fucking spastic forestry deregulation

2019-10-11 04:44:51 UTC  

Yup

2019-10-11 05:07:37 UTC  

@Tiberius
Can't spell Environmentalist without mental.

2019-10-11 05:09:59 UTC  

Precisely

2019-10-11 05:10:28 UTC  
2019-10-11 05:10:48 UTC  

Its lack of properly enforced regs not the removal of regs you twit

2019-10-11 05:31:25 UTC  

@Xaverius lmao, how can anyone take the Modern Democrat Party seriously

2019-10-11 05:32:05 UTC  

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2019-10-11 05:32:17 UTC  

okay, embezzling's scummy, but how many people die in his prison?