Message from @Might Guy

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2019-10-14 18:29:40 UTC  

"Kamala Harris calls out Don Jr. Don Jr.'s response sends Kamala Under the Table"

2019-10-14 18:52:01 UTC  

She's used to that move though

2019-10-14 19:03:22 UTC  

this should be a fun week

2019-10-14 21:19:19 UTC  

Zion Don Strikes again

2019-10-14 21:19:57 UTC  

No Bro, I swear Bro, We're really leaving The ME this time bro, I swear

2019-10-14 21:22:04 UTC  
2019-10-14 21:34:59 UTC  

What a weird ma-

2019-10-14 21:35:08 UTC  

'am

2019-10-14 21:35:19 UTC  

Haha

2019-10-14 21:57:10 UTC  

@Might Guy

The whole "nation building" schtick was only part of the Neocon program. Domestically they sought to sell the American people a lot of socialist pogroms by painting them as "right wing" (remember 'kinder gentler'?). In that latter sense I suppose there are Neocons here.

I don't fit either.

2019-10-14 21:58:27 UTC  

I don’t know what kinder gentler was

2019-10-14 21:58:37 UTC  

Could you enlighten me on it

2019-10-14 22:00:48 UTC  

But yes upon further reflection the neocons included a lot of illiberal religious people

2019-10-14 22:01:30 UTC  

And libertarians

2019-10-14 22:03:05 UTC  

Bush's domestic policy. 'Kinder gentler' another slogan was 'compassionate conservativism'. But basically trying to re-brand socialism in right wing terms. So *domestically* Tucker Carlson is straight Neocon.

2019-10-14 22:03:46 UTC  

So is that welfare/food stamps

2019-10-14 22:04:19 UTC  

Oh God no the libertarians universally opposed Neocons. Probably the best critique of that political philosophy was *Leviathan on the Right* from CATO.

2019-10-14 22:04:56 UTC  

Sorry

2019-10-14 22:05:18 UTC  

I had just listened to endeavors latest stream

2019-10-14 22:05:40 UTC  

Ol' Ted Cucks again

http://dlvr.it/RG7Pyc

2019-10-14 22:06:25 UTC  

And the guest said that the post 1950s Republicans were a coalition of Christians, libertarians and war hawks

2019-10-14 22:06:26 UTC  

Cuckin' Ted

2019-10-14 22:06:46 UTC  

So I thought they’d be lumped in

2019-10-14 22:08:22 UTC  

I have no idea who endeavor is.

2019-10-14 22:08:38 UTC  

But it sounds like he's just making shit up.

2019-10-14 22:09:12 UTC  

He’s a pretty solid dissident right channel

2019-10-14 22:10:01 UTC  

He’s more of a Christian type

2019-10-14 22:57:28 UTC  

@Might Guy

Oh OK the dissident right seems to get their history from movies half the time. Neocon is a lot more recent than that. It was if anything from the disaffected left (several of their theorists were Trotskyites at university). Of course from the libertarian standpoint there is little to love of the 50s as most of the New Deal socialism was still intact. Until the 60s when Kennedy *a Democrat* reduced the taxes and even proposed a silver currency before he was assassinated.

For the GOP there was no real libertarian influence until Goldwater. Bear in mind Reagan (who used to be a Democrat) became a Goldwater Republican and supported his failed primary bid.

2019-10-14 22:57:48 UTC  

You do not get the Neocons until like the 90s...

2019-10-14 22:59:32 UTC  

Upon reflection I don't think they meant neocons

2019-10-14 22:59:52 UTC  

But the post war right wing coalition

2019-10-14 23:07:19 UTC  

Well yeah but as I pointed out the libertarians weren't partisan at that point. It's a fairly recent development. Or Christians for that matter Carter for instance was very devout. Well everyone was at that point. Most religious politicking was over which denomination of Christian you were.

2019-10-15 00:40:38 UTC  

No I’m not a Neo con or care much for spreading democracy across the globe it just isn’t my concern, I’m far more interested in domestic politics here in the America

2019-10-15 00:41:44 UTC  

Now Jym is a big libertarian guy (seems like, I don’t want to misrepresent him) so I disagree a lot with him but I agree with him on that neo cons are trash

2019-10-15 00:42:21 UTC  

But I will say America was much better back in the 1950’s than now, when we actually had a homogeneous nation state

2019-10-15 00:42:33 UTC  

Of course it wasn’t perfect but nothing is

2019-10-15 00:42:52 UTC  

Neocons talk a big game about "spreading democracy", the accurate english translation is actually "increase the number of nations that give us discounts"