making libya better wasn't the purpose of intervening there

That's my point

We attacked for our interests and made things significantly worse there

Look at Libya now and compare it to Libya under Gaddafi

We should stop intervening

But I'm fine with weapon sales

Might as well be in control of it

It gonna happen anyway

i only agree with non-intervention because i don't want the current order to assert its interests

They are much less likely to take action against us

if we had a properly nationalist government i would advocate for imperialism

If we are the ones supplying their spares etc

@Death in June Just no

nations are never static

bring on the kings party?

Because Imperialism worked so well last time

you're either growing or you're dying

@The Electric Lizard It actually did

withdrawing yourself from conflict beyond your borders means you are giving potential rivals the opportunity to expand into the vacuum you've left and overtake you

I think the Independence movements of that time might disagree

There are lands that want to become British-governed again

Then let them join

But only them

Don't force countries to

and i mean that isn't to say the only mechanism by which this is to be done is outright subjugation

And what lands want to be controlled by Britain again, Hong Kong might be a maybe but i can't think of any others

i can lmao

@Death in June How would it be done then?

look at rodiesia

if i spelt it right idk

I guess some parts of Africa might

Maybe

in various ways

Name one

mutually beneficial relationships entered into from a position of dominance, for example

for example????

I don't think that would even be considered Imperialism

the european union would be an example of this, for some of the member states at least, though of course this is assuming that the liberal ideology lying at its foundation is good

Unless you are planning on just slowly leading the country towards Annexation

Any country that wants to be absorbed can apply to be

And it must be agreed to by the peoples of that country