Message from @Death in June

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2019-09-30 14:40:20 UTC  
2019-09-30 14:40:41 UTC  

nations are never static

2019-09-30 14:40:44 UTC  

bring on the kings party?

2019-09-30 14:40:44 UTC  

Because Imperialism worked so well last time

2019-09-30 14:40:47 UTC  

you're either growing or you're dying

2019-09-30 14:41:06 UTC  

@The Electric Lizard It actually did

2019-09-30 14:41:21 UTC  

withdrawing yourself from conflict beyond your borders means you are giving potential rivals the opportunity to expand into the vacuum you've left and overtake you

2019-09-30 14:41:28 UTC  

I think the Independence movements of that time might disagree

2019-09-30 14:41:32 UTC  

There are lands that want to become British-governed again

2019-09-30 14:41:40 UTC  

Then let them join

2019-09-30 14:41:44 UTC  

But only them

2019-09-30 14:41:52 UTC  

Don't force countries to

2019-09-30 14:42:17 UTC  

and i mean that isn't to say the only mechanism by which this is to be done is outright subjugation

2019-09-30 14:42:31 UTC  

And what lands want to be controlled by Britain again, Hong Kong might be a maybe but i can't think of any others

2019-09-30 14:42:53 UTC  

i can lmao

2019-09-30 14:43:04 UTC  

@Death in June How would it be done then?

2019-09-30 14:43:07 UTC  

look at rodiesia

2019-09-30 14:43:23 UTC  

if i spelt it right idk

2019-09-30 14:43:31 UTC  

I guess some parts of Africa might

2019-09-30 14:43:34 UTC  

Maybe

2019-09-30 14:43:35 UTC  

in various ways

2019-09-30 14:43:40 UTC  

Name one

2019-09-30 14:43:55 UTC  

mutually beneficial relationships entered into from a position of dominance, for example

2019-09-30 14:44:53 UTC  

for example????

2019-09-30 14:45:51 UTC  

I don't think that would even be considered Imperialism

2019-09-30 14:46:06 UTC  

the european union would be an example of this, for some of the member states at least, though of course this is assuming that the liberal ideology lying at its foundation is good

2019-09-30 14:46:06 UTC  

Unless you are planning on just slowly leading the country towards Annexation

2019-09-30 14:47:23 UTC  

Any country that wants to be absorbed can apply to be

2019-09-30 14:47:32 UTC  

And it must be agreed to by the peoples of that country

2019-09-30 14:47:49 UTC  

And if they don't want it?

2019-09-30 14:47:50 UTC  

Hands off

2019-09-30 14:47:56 UTC  

so basically the "commonwealth plus" bigger and better

2019-09-30 14:48:03 UTC  

i don't mean to say that imperialism is to only be an affair that is undertaken in this manner

2019-09-30 14:48:16 UTC  

just that it isn't exclusively a matter of completely one sided subjugation

2019-09-30 14:48:26 UTC  

It's not imperialism then really

2019-09-30 14:48:33 UTC  

It's not an empire in that sense

2019-09-30 14:48:37 UTC  

You don't have colonies

2019-09-30 14:48:51 UTC  

So essentially you want to create a real and modern Imperial Federation? @Death in June

2019-09-30 14:48:52 UTC  

You have territories that expressly want to be part of your state.

2019-09-30 14:49:19 UTC  

This is just basic free will at work

2019-09-30 14:49:41 UTC  

puppet states or integrated?