it's fucking retarded
@The Electric Lizard Yes, because you're an authoritarian
accept it, you're not in favour of liberty
No it isnt, a very indisciplined child needs that to become diciplined and realise there are consequences to their actions
> children in the foster system are out of control
I FUCKING WONDER WHY
Like i said before i am Libertarian on practically every other issue
Pain is useful for a child's growth
But think about the Liberty of the child here
@The Electric Lizard nope
Bad parenting and insane environments
The Child shouldn't be forced to be attacked by their parents
@The Electric Lizard Well change your position
you're attributing more malice to this
it's not attack
They should have the liberty to live life without being attacked or beaten or however you want to term it
if someone actually attacks a child, yes, lock them up
basically. the smack (which should only be a slap on a safe area) is the final escalation. it's a "stop that, now" after attempting to ask nicely, reason, etc have failed.
@The Electric Lizard "forced to be attacked?" You're way off the reservation here
Well they are forced to stay with their parents
They shouldn't. @The Electric Lizard But the amount that do is very small, and there are already things in place to prevent this kinds of things.
"attacked", "beaten"
hmmm
looks like someone was raped as a kid
and doesn't understand normal parenting
It's called emotive language
Im not saying abuse children here, Im saying that if only absolutey necessary it needs to happen if the kid is just out of control.
yes, maybe you should separate your emotions
because they're over involved
Attacked generates a better emotional response then smacked
> think of the children
Think of the liberty of the child not to be smacked
thats because attacked is a different thing
yeah, so you're trying to stear the conversation and we're not accepting it
it's not attacking
it's not beating
these things are already illegal
A founding principle of Libertarianism is the Non-Aggression principle, Smacking a child breaks that
Well brothers play fighting one another creates chatacter and teaches them the reality of loosing and struggle
well fuck, better let the nazis take europe
smacking isnt aggression, its a communication, an instruction
