if all aggression is unjustified then you're gonna die pretty fucking quickly in the desert when the lions get you

So if you go up to people and smack them, Can you claim that you were not actually attacking them you were just communicating with them? @system11

if my mother hadnt smacked me across the ass, i probably would have continued to refuse to go to school

Sometimes aggression in society is okay as well. Fuck absolutes like that.

@notaglobe No it's just unprovoked aggression

unprovoked

You dont want a generation of pussies

also not aggression

Smacking as a parental technique is unprovoked aggression as the child has not initiated it

for years she'd have been dealing with the reluctance, almost dragging me down the road

> as the child has not initiated it

This is incorrect

the child has initiated it - thats the whole point. its a reaction to an action

> unprovoked aggression
this is incorrect

@notaglobe Have they attacked their parent or someone else? In most cases no

oh, so you can only respond to direct attack?

so when my kid hits me, I can round house them?

Not doing what you are told does not warrant an aggressive response

tell the USA that

unprovoked smacking would do absolutely nothing, in fact it would diminish the power of the act as well as being actual child abuse

We should just ban all violence towards children by parents

it's not violence

its not violence

Yes it is

we disagree on the fundimentals here and you just keep repeating

it's not violence

Smacking someone is violence

Go and smack someone on the street and see what the police say that you have done

words are violence too i guess

No

yes it is

i think we've established that you'd make a terrible parent and raise a selfish, petulant monster too

Only physical contact with the intent to cause harm

there is no intent to cause harm

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Smacking as a parental technique fulfils that

violence is physical harm, I don't think violence in it's broadest sense is inherently wrong, though

there's so much wrong here

You are intending to cause harm as a deterrent to a particular action

no

yeah im going to fuck off and play some more tomb raider

this conversation is groundhogging