Doesn't add to it, I'd say

It does because it clearly shows there is a cultural issue that would cause the ratio to be that way. For example 72% of black children are born out of wedlock

I believe the percentage for whites is around 30% now

I don't see how race is relevant to that issure

*issue

You could probably substitute any race into that statistic. Imagine it was asians, for example, would they be likely or not likely to be suffering the same problems as a result? If likely, then race clearly isn't the important variable there, and also culture and race are not the same

Dont you see how your side of this is based on hypotheticals and things that dont exist, whilst the other is based in reality.

No, my side is based on showing you your data doesn't show what you think it shows

You don't have any comparative data

Shall i pull up the percentage of asians that are born out of wedlock

You just have one-off, circumstantial correlations

You don't need to - I already know that their numbers are different

But that doesn't mean it's based on race

They also developed in a totally different part of the world

we're talking about americans that are these races

So they are all in America, the same country

Are you denying there's a distinctly American culture, then?

What what makes you say that lol

Well if race and culture are the same, then white Americans are the same as the British, the same as the French, the same as the Germans, the same as the Norwegians...

And black Americans are the same as Jamaicans, same as Haitians, same as Nigerians, same as Ethiopians...

I think there is a distinctly American culture... and that some races/ethnicities are better at embodying that culture then others.

That doesn't make any sense

There would have to have been some a priori, objective American cultural system that existed before America existed

There is a distinctly british culture as well, and Id posit that some races are better at embodying it then others as well

That also doesn't make any sense

There would, once again, have to be some measuring stick

Some sort of pre-existing objective cultural golden ratio or something

Crime rates are the measuring stick, out of wedlock births... and etc. The things we have been discussing are the measuring stick.

Okay

I'm tired

I just had a horrible thought.
Instead of having a general election like everyone is saying.
Instead everyone just end up occupying their seats until 2022 and the speaker morphs into a de-facto PM.
Were parliament turns from a place were the government and the opposition speak through the speaker into a place were parties just sit there and ask an unelected speaker-PM nicely to enact legislation in their favour.

why is this idiot posting US stats in the UK politics

Are you lost?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-delay-boris-johnson-parliament-saturday-deal-eu-article-50-extension-a9148451.html

To be fair US is like UK spinoff <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

They love using "crashing out", not biased at all. It's "leaving on WTO terms"

I also like using it

It conjures the mental image of a helicopter above the EU parliament breaking the roof and Boris getting pulled out of there mission impossible style

yeah "crashing out" is fine, that wont cause any undue panic... but "surrender act" will cause right wing death squads to descend on the streets

I wonder how much it would cost to get eurosceptic adverts and statements in printed media

The core issue is "do you want to be ruled by imperialists you cannot vote for or against?"