Message from @Joshu

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2019-10-12 15:22:40 UTC  

but tout MANY MANY more tanks etc

2019-10-12 15:22:52 UTC  

which means their military is likely at a much lower readiness level

2019-10-12 15:22:58 UTC  

and/or maintenance level

2019-10-12 15:23:05 UTC  

that was a hug issue with russian sub in the Cold War

2019-10-12 15:23:17 UTC  

They started quiet but got loud due to poor maintenance

2019-10-12 15:23:25 UTC  

Ehh, this 'power' scale isn't very good

2019-10-12 15:23:29 UTC  

36 sorry

2019-10-12 15:23:31 UTC  

not 26

2019-10-12 15:23:39 UTC  

ah that makes sense

2019-10-12 15:23:40 UTC  

"This resulted in the “Composite Index of national Capability”,comprised of six key indicators – Population (PO), urban Population (uP), Iron and SteelProduction (ISP), Primary Energy Production (PEP), Military Expenditure (ME) and MilitaryPersonnel (MP)"

2019-10-12 15:23:50 UTC  

This accounts for power in long-term conflicts

2019-10-12 15:23:55 UTC  

Not short-term as most will be.

2019-10-12 15:24:39 UTC  

Long term are the ones that matter

2019-10-12 15:24:50 UTC  

They're not, because they're the least-likey to happen

2019-10-12 15:25:04 UTC  

Those are the "Change the direction of the planet" conflicts

2019-10-12 15:25:12 UTC  

The world wars.

2019-10-12 15:25:19 UTC  

Short term are typically anti terror

2019-10-12 15:25:22 UTC  

proxy wars etc

2019-10-12 15:25:23 UTC  

Of which, will result in nuclear conflict if they happened

2019-10-12 15:25:25 UTC  

no no @Joshu

2019-10-12 15:25:34 UTC  

If the US got into a fight with china it would not be short term

2019-10-12 15:25:40 UTC  

Short term is Russia invading the Baltics and taking them within 2-3 weeks.

2019-10-12 15:25:46 UTC  

What is the timescale for short and long in your opinions though as you may be arguing about two different points

2019-10-12 15:26:04 UTC  

Either way, I think the metric is good

2019-10-12 15:26:11 UTC  

Short-term as most conflicts are last a year maximum, long-term more than that

2019-10-12 15:26:22 UTC  

Long-term is where you see mss mobilization

2019-10-12 15:26:23 UTC  

However if you look at page 29

2019-10-12 15:26:26 UTC  

And where this matters

2019-10-12 15:26:28 UTC  

You can see the overall scores

2019-10-12 15:26:30 UTC  

is that a year of combat or also post combat stabilisation?

2019-10-12 15:26:55 UTC  

Which take into account everything about a country

2019-10-12 15:27:44 UTC  

One thing I can say about that scale at least is that it shows how much the continentals need to up their game, bunch of pussys

2019-10-12 15:29:26 UTC  

Yeah this report is really dedicated to long-term conflicts

2019-10-12 15:29:55 UTC  

The UK is also the current leader in Portland's "The soft power 30 report 2018"

2019-10-12 15:30:08 UTC  

Up from 2nd in 2015

2019-10-12 15:30:23 UTC  

In soft power? I'd agree on that

2019-10-12 15:30:39 UTC  

It's one of the reasons in that report we are so powerful

2019-10-12 15:30:52 UTC  

this is quite interesting as a comparison to other european powers.

2019-10-12 15:30:53 UTC  

Our, culture and our diplomatic power

2019-10-12 15:30:53 UTC  

rAnK  1  |  sCOrE  100 – Despite its smaller national base, the uK is the most
geopolitically-capable and “well-rounded” of the European major powers. It has a robust
capability portfolio from which to draw in the years ahead, particularly as it navigates
withdrawal from the Eu. In terms of national instruments – in which it leads overall – it has the
largest diplomatic leverage and second-biggest military might (after Russia). It has the largest
military budget in the Eu, while the Royal navy, in terms of total displacement of large warships
and auxiliaries, is larger than the navies of france, Italy and Germany combined. However,
despite its inherent strengths, the uK needs to concentrate on developing a robust strategy in
the years ahead to cultivate and mobilise its overall capability, particularly if it is to realise the
vision of “Global Britain”.

2019-10-12 15:31:31 UTC  

"while the Royal navy, in terms of total displacement of large warships
and auxiliaries, is larger than the navies of france, Italy and Germany combined"