Message from @Joshu

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2019-10-12 15:22:04 UTC  

Very surprised by that @Nathan James 123

2019-10-12 15:22:05 UTC  

Tanks, upgrades to their existing platforms

2019-10-12 15:22:07 UTC  

Check page 26

2019-10-12 15:22:25 UTC  

There is a thing with russia not alot of people realise

2019-10-12 15:22:33 UTC  

they have the same military budget as us give or take

2019-10-12 15:22:40 UTC  

but tout MANY MANY more tanks etc

2019-10-12 15:22:52 UTC  

which means their military is likely at a much lower readiness level

2019-10-12 15:22:58 UTC  

and/or maintenance level

2019-10-12 15:23:05 UTC  

that was a hug issue with russian sub in the Cold War

2019-10-12 15:23:17 UTC  

They started quiet but got loud due to poor maintenance

2019-10-12 15:23:25 UTC  

Ehh, this 'power' scale isn't very good

2019-10-12 15:23:29 UTC  

36 sorry

2019-10-12 15:23:31 UTC  

not 26

2019-10-12 15:23:39 UTC  

ah that makes sense

2019-10-12 15:23:40 UTC  

"This resulted in the “Composite Index of national Capability”,comprised of six key indicators – Population (PO), urban Population (uP), Iron and SteelProduction (ISP), Primary Energy Production (PEP), Military Expenditure (ME) and MilitaryPersonnel (MP)"

2019-10-12 15:23:50 UTC  

This accounts for power in long-term conflicts

2019-10-12 15:23:55 UTC  

Not short-term as most will be.

2019-10-12 15:24:39 UTC  

Long term are the ones that matter

2019-10-12 15:24:50 UTC  

They're not, because they're the least-likey to happen

2019-10-12 15:25:04 UTC  

Those are the "Change the direction of the planet" conflicts

2019-10-12 15:25:12 UTC  

The world wars.

2019-10-12 15:25:19 UTC  

Short term are typically anti terror

2019-10-12 15:25:22 UTC  

proxy wars etc

2019-10-12 15:25:23 UTC  

Of which, will result in nuclear conflict if they happened

2019-10-12 15:25:25 UTC  

no no @Joshu

2019-10-12 15:25:34 UTC  

If the US got into a fight with china it would not be short term

2019-10-12 15:25:40 UTC  

Short term is Russia invading the Baltics and taking them within 2-3 weeks.

2019-10-12 15:25:46 UTC  

What is the timescale for short and long in your opinions though as you may be arguing about two different points

2019-10-12 15:26:04 UTC  

Either way, I think the metric is good

2019-10-12 15:26:11 UTC  

Short-term as most conflicts are last a year maximum, long-term more than that

2019-10-12 15:26:22 UTC  

Long-term is where you see mss mobilization

2019-10-12 15:26:23 UTC  

However if you look at page 29

2019-10-12 15:26:26 UTC  

And where this matters

2019-10-12 15:26:28 UTC  

You can see the overall scores

2019-10-12 15:26:30 UTC  

is that a year of combat or also post combat stabilisation?

2019-10-12 15:26:55 UTC  

Which take into account everything about a country

2019-10-12 15:27:44 UTC  

One thing I can say about that scale at least is that it shows how much the continentals need to up their game, bunch of pussys

2019-10-12 15:29:26 UTC  

Yeah this report is really dedicated to long-term conflicts

2019-10-12 15:29:55 UTC  

The UK is also the current leader in Portland's "The soft power 30 report 2018"

2019-10-12 15:30:08 UTC  

Up from 2nd in 2015