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I was basing from the stand about Maoism as how the Communist Party of the Philippines sees it.

The CPP's flavor of Maoism, a flexible one that can be suited for various social needs for Third World countries, is known as "Marxism-Leninism-Maoism"

Basically, they just charged and refiltered the existing body of socialism the Russians were exporting with Mao's philosophy.

2019-03-23 09:14:28 UTC  

Okay so which historical period are you talking about. After Deng it's a runaway train of justification

The "Maoism that is not exported" is Mao Zedong Thought, as it only applies on Chinese society.

2019-03-23 09:16:18 UTC  

And you are conscious of the fact that the Maoist revolution involved all classes and to extend it's definition as a 'Marxist' revolution is misleading?

Maoism in a sense also kinda has this patriotic taste. That is why its very popular in the Third World.

Marxism in face value works best on already established nation-states, where there's already a deep-seated oligarchy to hate.

In short, creating a new socialist country vs. converting a country into socialism.

Even if I like Mao's philosophy, I don't condone some of his policies I find as idiotic.

Like the Sparrow Campaign for example.

Anyone who has studied Earth Science would facepalm at that, even if he/she is not a left-winger.

The Great Leap Forward also fucked up because of some stupid policies too.

2019-03-23 09:22:35 UTC  

At some point you have to throw up your arms and just admit Maoism is just the encouragement of the 'third world' to develop itself. There is no such thing as socialism or the waging of war against capitalism as Stalin prescribed. I know it is unclear, but let's not assign more than necessary. To be clear, any Marxist-Leninist Party today would be taking power and make new theory and practice together, and yet the world is devoid of such examples, even though we are close

And also, the Filipino commie party also learned a lot of hard lessons from Great Leap, Sparrow Campaign, and of course, Pol Pot.

Another reason they can't forgive the post-1976 Chinese Communist Party was propping up Pol Pot, which basically damaged the PR of Asian communist movements.

Khmer Rouge was basically a disaster to Marxism just as DAESH is to Islam, Zionism to Judaism, and the KKK and the Lord's Resistance Army are to Christianity.

2019-03-23 10:00:19 UTC  

I don't think extremism is bad. The extents of interpretation all apart of the overall tendency. As Lenin said, my only morality is class conflict. The which advances it is good, and that which frustrates it is bad. To get hysterical about this or that event is to miss the overall process. There is no act on this earth so bad that if it advanced my aims I would reject

2019-03-23 10:07:46 UTC  

🤔

2019-03-23 10:12:16 UTC  

For you, my timid traveller

2019-03-23 10:12:39 UTC  

let's kill 10124 gazillion people so we can finally achieve communism

2019-03-23 10:12:48 UTC  

with the 5 that are left

2019-03-23 10:13:28 UTC  

What do you know about the world? Death is normal. People die. Not just people, everything dies. And what is the meaning? It happens all the time

2019-03-23 10:13:35 UTC  

I'd rather just shit on the system from the comfort of my own chair

2019-03-23 10:14:55 UTC  

Our lives are just thrown away. We are not important. At least try to understand the context of the world and not spend the time crying

2019-03-23 10:15:05 UTC  

violence is ineffective, people need to change their mindsets

2019-03-23 10:15:53 UTC  

Hmmm, I think context is important here. Because violence seems the rule in most historical change, not the exception

2019-03-23 10:16:23 UTC  

winners write history

2019-03-23 10:16:49 UTC  

Don't make me fill the gaps for you. How do we get here?

2019-03-23 10:17:24 UTC  

I know how it works I just dont think we need to kill people with totalitarian regimes to achieve some utopian world

2019-03-23 10:19:02 UTC  

I see. You enjoy a nice life of comfort and risk nothing. i understand how this conclusions could be reached. But there will come a day when you cannot just sit back and pretend force isn't important, because it in the truth of this world and if anyone wanted, they could use force to change your whole world very easily

2019-03-23 10:19:56 UTC  

People should put it in their hands to overthrow the system, not build another one to rule and then stay

2019-03-23 10:20:13 UTC  

I never said otherwise

2019-03-23 10:20:31 UTC  

I dont want to kill innocents

2019-03-23 10:20:37 UTC  

That

2019-03-23 10:20:47 UTC  

although its hard to go about that in a revolution