Message from @dontchewglass
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that article says camus is an existentialist lol
He said he wasn't, but in effect p much was
i find absurdism to be distinct from existentialism
could just be because camus was more literary than philosophical tbh
I always thought of Absurdism as a sort of branch of Existentialism
fair
mfw Heidegger was a good philosopher in an apolitical sense but his politics were literally as bad as possible
What do y'all think of state capitalism
ew state capitalism
heidegger is fucking hilarious in how bad his politics are
>government can plan the economy
Sounds comfy to me desu
state capitalism is gross
workers don't own the means of production >: (
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I mean I realize that analyzing ML states as State Capitalist definitely defends on your definition of socialism obviously
whether you view it as a transitional phase of the reversal of class repression or as worker's control
What happens when the scientific guide of Diamat conflicts with the 'be yourself' model of existentialism? Do you explode?
yeah
in all seriousness thats the whole paradox of human existence isnt it. we're self-aware freely choosing beings who are also driven by our material circumstances
There's a difference between scientifically analyzing how material forces and class drive history and encouraging individuals to act without forgetting that they are ultimately free, and encouraging them to be free
@not_matt 'we're self-aware freely choosing beings' Only subjectively.
exactly
being a subject is like exactly what existentialism is all about
being for-itself rather than in-itself and all that jazz
And if the objectivty of diamat informs our subject, it is no longer a choice.
Sartrean existentialism never says that you control your situation, but you do have absolute control over how you react and what you do with those situations
And Sartre said that he was never more free than he was in prison, because he still had the freedom to interpret life, his situation and his own thought
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@dontchewglass But the arrow of time is linear. It is impossible to demonstrate this is true. In what way do we have control?
You have the absolute freedom to revolt, if you have no chains on your wrist, then you are physically free to punch a cop, organize, crush Capitalism
@dontchewglass But will you? The objective laws of the universe are deterministic. How does any definition of freedom exist here?
Diamat predicts revolutions, not because we choose it, but because social progress determines it.
self consciousness and subjectivity
thats how freedom exists
@not_matt So the introspective sense that 'it could have been different', the imagination of our conscious mind, shows we are free?
Seems like a redundant definition.
Just like individualism.
agree to disagree i guess, i should be studying for finals rn lmfao
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I conclude that the fact that our perspective on our control of the world around us affects how we behave and undertake responsibility in the real world implies our ability to have free will; the capacity to make decisions that are irreducible to subconscious parameters: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0002764213506215
> tfw my formerly liberal boyfriend is slowly radicalizing