Message from @OF-8

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2017-05-17 23:42:07 UTC  

we'd need unions to keep that

2017-05-17 23:42:09 UTC  

Amazingly low.

2017-05-17 23:42:25 UTC  

Also without usury a volunteer economy may emerge

2017-05-17 23:42:32 UTC  

market distortion isn't only from usury

2017-05-17 23:42:43 UTC  

Unions are mafias which exploit the worker.

2017-05-17 23:43:04 UTC  

the nature of an unplanned economy leads to distortion, rewarding or not innovation, the same market (anarchy of production)

2017-05-17 23:43:15 UTC  

Usury is the lions share of market distortion, consider its ripple effects.

2017-05-17 23:43:34 UTC  

I agree, but vertical mafias endowed in the state; those kind of unions

2017-05-17 23:43:35 UTC  

The products the originate from usury being allowed in the system

2017-05-17 23:43:38 UTC  

not the anarchist ones

2017-05-17 23:43:48 UTC  

anarcho-syndicalism is free from parasitism for the worker

2017-05-17 23:43:56 UTC  

they're horizontal

2017-05-17 23:44:28 UTC  

You know anarcho-syndicalism is the system used by multi-national corporations at the elite level.

2017-05-17 23:44:34 UTC  

It works like a motherfucker.

2017-05-17 23:44:57 UTC  

Requires a ton of resources to keep the hounds off ur ass.

2017-05-17 23:45:24 UTC  

Multi national corporations can't be unions

2017-05-17 23:45:31 UTC  

they exploit the worker

2017-05-17 23:45:33 UTC  

lol keep going guys

2017-05-17 23:45:42 UTC  

Hehehe. Not for the Exploited no

2017-05-17 23:45:55 UTC  

ah like google

2017-05-17 23:46:03 UTC  

The system looks very different depending on your caste

2017-05-17 23:46:11 UTC  

I've been through many many castes.

2017-05-17 23:46:12 UTC  

that's not anarcho-syndicalism; in this case the productivity for the programmers leads to profit

2017-05-17 23:46:25 UTC  

some works need scientific management like retail for capital

2017-05-17 23:46:32 UTC  

but in this case, they adopt other model

2017-05-17 23:47:04 UTC  

You're still thinking in worker terms.

2017-05-17 23:47:06 UTC  

most anarchist societies had governments

2017-05-17 23:47:15 UTC  

other than the maknovists

2017-05-17 23:47:30 UTC  

Same way Cuba was not very socialist, but anti-imperialist.

2017-05-17 23:47:33 UTC  

The perspective from a vested party is pure anarcho-syndicalism.

2017-05-17 23:47:40 UTC  

cuba was socialist lol

2017-05-17 23:47:49 UTC  

cuba is a great example of socialism

2017-05-17 23:47:49 UTC  
2017-05-17 23:47:51 UTC  

The stock market is a proxy for competition between these syndicates

2017-05-17 23:48:52 UTC  

Parties are hierarchical

2017-05-17 23:48:56 UTC  

stock market won't be in a syndicate society

2017-05-17 23:49:53 UTC  

@petit bourgeois Cuba doesn't have economy to be socialist

2017-05-17 23:50:05 UTC  

explain please

2017-05-17 23:50:18 UTC  

@petit bourgeois They are not self-sufficient.

2017-05-17 23:50:32 UTC  

Cuba and NK seek investments as they can't be in autarchy

2017-05-17 23:50:56 UTC  

@Ornament One who fights imperialism all their life might be an imperialist, or might be a stooge. This is why authority is important. With theory and with leadership. The average cannot be considered the best. Relying on the most competent also leads to the least mistakes, and the least likelihood of betraying your intentions, which is very possible if every individual is allowed to determine his own reality.