Message from @OF-8

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2017-05-17 23:41:02 UTC  

@Deleted User Subjectivity can equal objectivity in our case. Even very poor and not well studied. The theory brings us closer even if not too much. One who fights imperialism all his life is an anti-imperialist. USSR was more anti-imperialist than anybody else in history.

2017-05-17 23:41:09 UTC  

The worst exploitation is usury

2017-05-17 23:41:25 UTC  

the worker I told you about doesn't invest

2017-05-17 23:41:45 UTC  

just a wage slave, exploited under the law

2017-05-17 23:42:02 UTC  

and if that worker doesn't meets what the bourgeois wants; the worker is in the street

2017-05-17 23:42:05 UTC  

In fact, without usury or its associated mechanisms, exploitation should reach tolerable levels.

2017-05-17 23:42:07 UTC  

we'd need unions to keep that

2017-05-17 23:42:09 UTC  

Amazingly low.

2017-05-17 23:42:25 UTC  

Also without usury a volunteer economy may emerge

2017-05-17 23:42:32 UTC  

market distortion isn't only from usury

2017-05-17 23:42:43 UTC  

Unions are mafias which exploit the worker.

2017-05-17 23:43:04 UTC  

the nature of an unplanned economy leads to distortion, rewarding or not innovation, the same market (anarchy of production)

2017-05-17 23:43:15 UTC  

Usury is the lions share of market distortion, consider its ripple effects.

2017-05-17 23:43:34 UTC  

I agree, but vertical mafias endowed in the state; those kind of unions

2017-05-17 23:43:35 UTC  

The products the originate from usury being allowed in the system

2017-05-17 23:43:38 UTC  

not the anarchist ones

2017-05-17 23:43:48 UTC  

anarcho-syndicalism is free from parasitism for the worker

2017-05-17 23:43:56 UTC  

they're horizontal

2017-05-17 23:44:28 UTC  

You know anarcho-syndicalism is the system used by multi-national corporations at the elite level.

2017-05-17 23:44:34 UTC  

It works like a motherfucker.

2017-05-17 23:44:57 UTC  

Requires a ton of resources to keep the hounds off ur ass.

2017-05-17 23:45:24 UTC  

Multi national corporations can't be unions

2017-05-17 23:45:31 UTC  

they exploit the worker

2017-05-17 23:45:33 UTC  

lol keep going guys

2017-05-17 23:45:42 UTC  

Hehehe. Not for the Exploited no

2017-05-17 23:45:55 UTC  

ah like google

2017-05-17 23:46:03 UTC  

The system looks very different depending on your caste

2017-05-17 23:46:11 UTC  

I've been through many many castes.

2017-05-17 23:46:12 UTC  

that's not anarcho-syndicalism; in this case the productivity for the programmers leads to profit

2017-05-17 23:46:25 UTC  

some works need scientific management like retail for capital

2017-05-17 23:46:32 UTC  

but in this case, they adopt other model

2017-05-17 23:47:04 UTC  

You're still thinking in worker terms.

2017-05-17 23:47:06 UTC  

most anarchist societies had governments

2017-05-17 23:47:15 UTC  

other than the maknovists

2017-05-17 23:47:30 UTC  

Same way Cuba was not very socialist, but anti-imperialist.

2017-05-17 23:47:33 UTC  

The perspective from a vested party is pure anarcho-syndicalism.

2017-05-17 23:47:40 UTC  

cuba was socialist lol

2017-05-17 23:47:49 UTC  

cuba is a great example of socialism

2017-05-17 23:47:49 UTC  
2017-05-17 23:47:51 UTC  

The stock market is a proxy for competition between these syndicates

2017-05-17 23:48:52 UTC  

Parties are hierarchical