Message from @Mawk

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2017-05-17 23:41:45 UTC  

just a wage slave, exploited under the law

2017-05-17 23:42:02 UTC  

and if that worker doesn't meets what the bourgeois wants; the worker is in the street

2017-05-17 23:42:05 UTC  

In fact, without usury or its associated mechanisms, exploitation should reach tolerable levels.

2017-05-17 23:42:07 UTC  

we'd need unions to keep that

2017-05-17 23:42:09 UTC  

Amazingly low.

2017-05-17 23:42:25 UTC  

Also without usury a volunteer economy may emerge

2017-05-17 23:42:32 UTC  

market distortion isn't only from usury

2017-05-17 23:42:43 UTC  

Unions are mafias which exploit the worker.

2017-05-17 23:43:04 UTC  

the nature of an unplanned economy leads to distortion, rewarding or not innovation, the same market (anarchy of production)

2017-05-17 23:43:15 UTC  

Usury is the lions share of market distortion, consider its ripple effects.

2017-05-17 23:43:34 UTC  

I agree, but vertical mafias endowed in the state; those kind of unions

2017-05-17 23:43:35 UTC  

The products the originate from usury being allowed in the system

2017-05-17 23:43:38 UTC  

not the anarchist ones

2017-05-17 23:43:48 UTC  

anarcho-syndicalism is free from parasitism for the worker

2017-05-17 23:43:56 UTC  

they're horizontal

2017-05-17 23:44:28 UTC  

You know anarcho-syndicalism is the system used by multi-national corporations at the elite level.

2017-05-17 23:44:34 UTC  

It works like a motherfucker.

2017-05-17 23:44:57 UTC  

Requires a ton of resources to keep the hounds off ur ass.

2017-05-17 23:45:24 UTC  

Multi national corporations can't be unions

2017-05-17 23:45:31 UTC  

they exploit the worker

2017-05-17 23:45:33 UTC  

lol keep going guys

2017-05-17 23:45:42 UTC  

Hehehe. Not for the Exploited no

2017-05-17 23:45:55 UTC  

ah like google

2017-05-17 23:46:03 UTC  

The system looks very different depending on your caste

2017-05-17 23:46:11 UTC  

I've been through many many castes.

2017-05-17 23:46:12 UTC  

that's not anarcho-syndicalism; in this case the productivity for the programmers leads to profit

2017-05-17 23:46:25 UTC  

some works need scientific management like retail for capital

2017-05-17 23:46:32 UTC  

but in this case, they adopt other model

2017-05-17 23:47:04 UTC  

You're still thinking in worker terms.

2017-05-17 23:47:06 UTC  

most anarchist societies had governments

2017-05-17 23:47:15 UTC  

other than the maknovists

2017-05-17 23:47:30 UTC  

Same way Cuba was not very socialist, but anti-imperialist.

2017-05-17 23:47:33 UTC  

The perspective from a vested party is pure anarcho-syndicalism.

2017-05-17 23:47:40 UTC  

cuba was socialist lol

2017-05-17 23:47:49 UTC  

cuba is a great example of socialism

2017-05-17 23:47:49 UTC  
2017-05-17 23:47:51 UTC  

The stock market is a proxy for competition between these syndicates

2017-05-17 23:48:52 UTC  

Parties are hierarchical

2017-05-17 23:48:56 UTC  

stock market won't be in a syndicate society

2017-05-17 23:49:53 UTC  

@petit bourgeois Cuba doesn't have economy to be socialist

2017-05-17 23:50:05 UTC  

explain please