And if the workers control the means of production are they not the bourgeois in place of the old?

Not to say the workers as the bourgeois is what I am criticizing

Quite the opposite really

no, because they can't exploit other workers with the means

since they're collectively owned not privately owned

Promising sovereignty through a representative union to the court is not my idea of a prole dictatorship

Bourgeois means to control the means of production

Have you not read Marx?

it is, dictatorship of the proletariat means the proletariat having power over the bourgoisie, at the contrary that the dictatorship of the capital

The collective becoming the bourgeois and eliminating their oppression is the very essence of communism

no

that would be distributism

the economy isn't privately owned

the means

however

the means of productions are collective, but personal property is for each worker

who has worked for it

And the worker is not the collective?

"to each according to his contribution" is socialism

the worker is part of the proletariat in capitalism

No the collective in the ideal communist society

yes

And there is no bourgeois?

in communism it's "to each according to his needs"

there isn't bourgeois in socialism or communism

Each according to his contribution sounds like a trade or merit system more than socialism

If there is no bourgeois then who controls production?

the state/the workers

If the workers are the proles then they do not control production

in the USSR they were owned publicly

wtf is this?

The state controlling the production makes the state the bourgeois

in anarchist projects they were owned by the workers directly (Self-management)

@Cosmetic Hey that avatar is my waifu hands off

yeah uhhhhhh

no

nah

she mine monica

the state doesn't extract surplus value, if something taxes

Get your grubby hands off my anime waifu

it's a step towards communism