Message from @Blebleh

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2017-05-19 05:07:27 UTC  

Other aristocrat: Gyorgy Lukacs

2017-05-19 05:07:48 UTC  

Very few who shed blood became influential in that system.

2017-05-19 05:08:32 UTC  

Those who labored, and later fed up and sacrificed never ascended, instead allowing those who did neither to instead.

2017-05-19 05:09:43 UTC  

Lenin was sent to prison

2017-05-19 05:09:47 UTC  

Marx to the exile

2017-05-19 05:09:55 UTC  

Stalin to prison

2017-05-19 05:10:03 UTC  

The bolsheviks robbed banks

2017-05-19 05:10:13 UTC  

Stalin was a worker, Mao too

2017-05-19 05:13:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/314993996097126400/Calculatingrate.png

2017-05-19 05:13:58 UTC  

Stalin was only a worker for a short time in factory as a cobbler apprentice as a child

2017-05-19 05:14:28 UTC  

Otherwise he quickly found his way into politics and/or insurgent activities

2017-05-19 05:14:40 UTC  

He infiltrated factories working in them.

2017-05-19 05:14:57 UTC  

He who acts as one though he is not one

2017-05-19 05:15:19 UTC  

He didn't have an income from capital.

2017-05-19 05:15:32 UTC  

He is of class proletariat.

2017-05-19 05:16:04 UTC  

He WAS until he became an official in the revolutionary government

2017-05-19 05:16:18 UTC  

But he was not a mere laborer

2017-05-19 05:16:33 UTC  

@Deleted User Officials work for the class.

2017-05-19 05:19:27 UTC  
2017-05-19 05:20:43 UTC  

"I must say in all conscience, comrades, that I do
not deserve a good half of the flattering things that
have been said here about me. I am, it appears, a hero
of the October Revolution, the leader of the Communist
Party of the Soviet Union, the leader of the Communist
International, a legendary warrior-knight and all the
rest of it. That is absurd, comrades, and quite unneces-
sary exaggeration. It is the sort of thing that is usually
said at the graveside of a departed revolutionary. But
I have no intention of dying yet.
I must therefore give a true picture of what I was
formerly, and to whom I owe my present position in
our Party.
Comrade Arakel* said here that in the old days he
regarded himself as one of my teachers, and myself as
his pupil. That is perfectly true, comrades. I really
was, and still am, one of the pupils of the advanced
workers of the Tiflis railway workshops"

2017-05-19 05:21:00 UTC  
2017-05-19 05:21:09 UTC  

goodbye

2017-05-19 05:24:23 UTC  

>gripes about the social-democrats in the first few pages

2017-05-19 05:24:34 UTC  

Even Stalin hated them

2017-05-19 05:24:48 UTC  

Also I C E P I C K

2017-05-19 05:25:30 UTC  

@Deleted User Social-Democracy is a national-socialism in the first stage.

2017-05-19 05:26:07 UTC  

Has nothing to do with Marxism anymore.

2017-05-19 05:27:14 UTC  

That is a complete and utter untruth my friend

2017-05-19 05:27:37 UTC  

Social Democracy was one of the things National Socialists formed to oppose

2017-05-19 05:27:53 UTC  

In fact it was the very first movement Hitler was introduced to

2017-05-19 05:28:12 UTC  

That is what Marxist theory came to. At first it was an opposition but after Social-Democrats joined NatSoc

2017-05-19 05:28:18 UTC  

He even remarked it had strayed far from anything it ever could have been to begin with

2017-05-19 05:28:24 UTC  

And had taken the unions with it

2017-05-19 05:29:01 UTC  

Social Democrats may have *converted* but National Socialism and Social Democracy are two wildly different systems

2017-05-19 05:29:25 UTC  

If they were able to convert something is wrong there. Marxists do not convert.

2017-05-19 05:29:34 UTC  

They are logical, rational.

2017-05-19 05:29:44 UTC  

Humans are infallible.

2017-05-19 05:30:43 UTC  

As I have said before, you really ought to read Mein Kampf. Second and third chapters heavily involve criticisms of SocDem and why it was bunkum in his opinion

2017-05-19 05:31:06 UTC  

If I recall correctly it was mostly because the movement was driven by non-workers, much like many such movements

2017-05-19 05:31:07 UTC  

Hmmm

2017-05-19 05:31:45 UTC  

@Deleted User Social-Democrats turned NatSoc. Marxist fought them in the war.